Will the NCAA’s investigation of former Kentucky guard Eric Bledsoe send John Calipari packing for the NBA?
At least one NBA agent says Yes.
“Obviously, if something’s going to go down at Kentucky, that would be the third school [that Calipari’s impacted].
“I would think that that would expedite something.”
The New York Times reported online Friday that the NCAA was investigating “changes in Bledsoe’s academic and athletic prospects” during his time in high school in Alabama and that those changes “could be another blow to Kentucky Coach John Calipari, who led teams at Massachusetts and Memphis that had their records and Final Four appearances expunged after rules violations were found under his watch.”
Kentucky reached the Elite Eight last season before getting upset by West Virginia.
Five Kentucky players — including Bledsoe and three other freshmen, John Wall, Daniel Orton and DeMarcus Cousins — have declared for the NBA Draft.
Kentucky has already landed a stellar recruiting class for 2010, including guards Brandon Knight and Doron Lamb, high school forwards Terrence Jones and Enes Kanter, and JUCO forward Eloy Vargas.
Calipari is on record saying he will remain at Kentucky for next season, but could the investigation into Bledsoe’s status propel him to the NBA?
After the Philadelphia 76ers introduced Doug Collins as their new coach Monday, there are now six head coaching vacancies in the NBA.
Cleveland, Atlanta, Chicago, New Orleans, the Los Angeles Clippers and New Jersey all have openings.
Reports indicated that NBA power broker William Wesley had shopped the idea of a package deal in which Calipari and LeBron James — who are friendly and share a common bond to agent Leon Rose — would head to the same NBA franchise, with the Bulls, Nets and Clippers mentioned as options.
Still, NBA agent Mark Bartelstein previously told SNY.tv he doesn’t believe James wants to hand-pick his next coach.
“Unless I’m wrong, I don’t think LeBron would want to do that,” Bartelstein said. “I’d be surprised if he’d want to put himself in that position. You’re in the locker room with all the other guys.”
One Eastern Conference NBA assistant coach said he believed the Clippers and the Bulls were delaying their coaching hires to see which way James is leaning.
“There’s been at least two teams that it’s apparent that they’re delaying the coaching search to get closer to the July 1 deadline so LeBron can weigh in,” the assistant said. “It looks like the Clippers are doing it. I wouldn’t be surprised if Chicago doesn’t have that in mind, either.”
Calipari went 72-112 in parts of three seasons with the Nets in the late 90s and his tenure there was recently criticized by a national columnist.
“Between you, me and the wall, I don’t understand why his name is even in this [NBA discussion],” the NBA agent said. “He did not have a great career in the pros. I don’t know where this is being generated from.
“I don’t know where it would come from an NBA person that that would be something they were interested in.”
Yet if the NCAA turns up the heat on Kentucky, Calipari may try even harder to get back to the NBA.
(Photo courtesy Reuters)
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tsmooth / May 29, 2010
Being honest here, those who were around the Bledsoe recruitment thought it was ASTOUNDING that he actually qualified for college.
Many of us knew this was coming..Just like we knew he would declare before he actually did.
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Confident CatFan / May 29, 2010
You are a clown Zagoria. Calipari is going nowhere and I gaurantee you UK is in NO trouble. Keep praying though. You should spend your time actually covering programs that ARE in trouble(Like UCONN) and not programs that you WISH were in trouble with the NCAA. haha
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blasphemy / May 29, 2010
Here comes the floodgates of B.S…… Pete Thamel is out to get Calipari, make no mistake about it.
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blasphemy / May 29, 2010
Dude, this is from Pete Thamel, the story is, or will very soon, run in the NY Times. Zags is just reporting it too, don’t blame Zag, blame Pete Thamel, he’s the butt hole trying to “catch” Calipari.
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blasphemy / May 29, 2010
There are no investigations by the NCAA at this time, per Matt Jones who has quality sources. It’s all Pete Thamel, and his apparent begrudging of Calipari, that spent MONTHS trying to dig up SOMETHING. All the alleged stuff came about before Cal got involved anyway from my understanding. We will see.
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tsmooth / May 29, 2010
Your last sentence “All the alleged stuff came before Cal got involved anyway.”
That was the same with the Rose/Memphis case.
We will see, but I can tell you that what the NYT reported is ENTIRELY true.
Those who were around Memphis last year, and those who knew him in Birmingham, knew this to be the case.
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HuskiesNYC / May 29, 2010
Confident CatFan – Zags is just doing his job and yes he did write an article today about the UConn situation. UConn will likely lose a scholarship or two but you need to be more concerned about games being vacated for using an inelligable player…Both UCONN and UK have “allegations” against their respective programs now lets see whats proven
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MemfoManiac / May 29, 2010
Can you spell “Strict Liability”? That’s how the NCAA answered the Derrick Rose eligibility matter with Memphis in vacating their 2007-2008 season. Same rules will apply with Bledsoe and Kentucky. Bledsoe will be found ineligible and KY will have to forfeit all games he played in. Funny thing is Cal didn’t really need Bledsoe or even want him since he already had Wall, he only went after him because Memphis was trying to get him. Glad we dodged this bullet. Cal’s as good as gone. Hide & Watch!
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tsmooth / May 29, 2010
Cal recruited Bledsoe at Memphis. Memphis didn’t make his cut. UK was on it.
Cal went to UK and continued to recruit Bledsoe.
He needed Bledsoe even if you think he didn’t. Apparently, you didn’t watch a lot of UK games this year.
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blasphemy / May 29, 2010
The dude reported that things looked “suspicious” with him and his unnamed “sources.” I’m going to say that “EVERYTHING” he said is NOT true. Maybe some, not all. I wouldn’t be shocked at all if someone at NYT gets sued all to hell about releasing the GPA of a certain student-athlete.
In any case of any doubt though, I have no doubt, that nothing will come of this, in terms of bans, or anything. Perhaps I am wrong, time will tell. However, in closing, this story seemed more like a picture painting story and hatchet job than journalistic material, or perhaps it’s my UK biased telling me he’s out to get Cal and UK….. but I suspect more of the former viewpoint than the latter one is more accurate.
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blasphemy / May 29, 2010
Ours isn’t even in the wood-works yet, per Matt Jones. As of now, there is no investigation into UK. So how can punishments even be prescribed if there isn’t anything to process yet?
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blasphemy / May 29, 2010
ts, I got to go to sleep so I can go to work tommorrow morn at 8am as a security guard…….. ya, it’s almost 2am now so…… I’ll start this back up with you when you get on in the mon! Mainly because I can do whatever as one lol
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tsmooth / May 29, 2010
lol. wow. I feel ya on that, man. 1 am my time!
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tsmooth / May 29, 2010
Did they release it?
I’m just letting you know that from those that were around Bledsoe, and are around Bledsoe, that they knew about the allegations before they were reported.
Question now is if the NCAA can prove it.
A college or player can do many things, but in order for the NCAA to sanction them, they have to be caught, per se. IF the NCAA can prove the allegations to be true, then UK’s situation will pretty much mirror Memphis’.
It may be a mixture of both. You never know.
As you said, time will tell.
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BlueCat32 / May 29, 2010
Question-How would the NYT writer know if the NCAA is investigating Eric Bledsoe?
According to ESPN article it says that-
The NCAA does not discuss ongoing investigations…
Kentucky has not been contacted by the NCAA about the Bledsoe investigation, a source from the school told ESPN.com’s Andy Katz. The source also said Bledsoe would have been academically eligible at Kentucky had he returned for his sophomore season.
So,how does this writer know more about the situation involving Eric Bledsoe than the University?
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=5231161
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tsmooth / May 29, 2010
Hmm…interesting.
Probably going to be best if we let it play out
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fearthephog25 / May 29, 2010
Im not going to say anything. I am just going to sit back and watch all the uk fans go crazy on their message boards. It is some good amusement, and all the DENIAL is comical.
All I say is that cal never should have messed with NCAA President Mr. Emmert or the UW Huskies recruiting process.
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BlueCat32 / May 29, 2010
Most definitely….
The only thing is you see all these “News Services” jumping all over this NYT article,and as of now it’s nothing factual.
Let’s see the writer mentions an un-named coach(Sour grapes),a land-lady (Her word against the coaches)and E.B.’s transcripts(which I’m sure they have been examined by many knowledgeable parties involved).
At this point I’m not very concerned at all…
I just hope that “IF” this is a bogus story, that the NYT and this writer be held accountable…
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dearborn26 / May 29, 2010
I love the no facts so it never happened, That.s what the uconn fans were crying about when everything came out last year. You guys wanted Cal, what did you think was going to happen? 2 schools two vacated final fours. At his third school now probably a vacated elite 8. At least its not another final four. Now cry some more about people out to get UK. When its your own fault for hiring this slime. Do any UK fans actually think he was a bad hire? or are all of you delirious?
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fearthephog25 / May 29, 2010
Well …
Shall we say the comittee executed the plan flawlessly.
How We Caught’em — ‘hook, line and sinker’:
Hook — Ticket scam at Kansas University ( a necessary diversion … intended to elude UK )
Line — UConn’s corruption scandal ( the committee had Calhoun last season … the goal here was to draw out the ‘UK Faithful’ )
Sinker — Eric Bledsoe and Family.
[ We encourage patience … ‘Death of a Salesman’ is forthcoming. ]
Watching …
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bigpapijugg / May 29, 2010
Id rather be on probation that to go through another year of gillispie. The ncaa IS investigating……..Eric. they arent after uk or cal yet. Prob will be soon but this precedent they are setting is a joke. If a kid is cleared he should be cleared, yet the NCAA lets a whole season go by so they can just take it back when they know this very early. whats the point of qualifying if in the end you could be ruled unqualified. kinda like having a mandarory signing date when you can just show up in the summer and be on the team you choose. Kansas go away with it a few years ago why shouldnt we.
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BlueCat32 / May 29, 2010
As of today,I’m not even sure if there is an investigation going on,the only source is that NYT article.No one else can confirm anything as of now.
So,listening to your comments we are already found guilty and vacating wins from last season based on one article…WOW!
Talking about jumping the gun,I guess as U put it I’ll go “cry” myself to sleep…
What a dumb-ass post,classic hater at their best….
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BlueCat32 / May 29, 2010
It hasn’t been confirmed that there is any investigation going on…I can’t understand why people rely on one article as fact…
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dearborn26 / May 29, 2010
So Cal has never done anything wrong? Things just happen to go bad when hes around but its always someone else? I respect the rather be on probation then go through the Gillispie comment cause you atleast have some sense of what this guy is all about
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dearborn26 / May 29, 2010
I have nothing against UK but have never been a fan of Cal. You can’t look at his track record and tell me your proud of this man being your coach. The only reason I’m wishing bad things on yoru program is because I want him out of college basketball. Not just UK but the whole thing. He does not belong around kids
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crautdawg / May 29, 2010
The good news is if UK has its ’09-’10 wins taken away they’ll get to have another 2000 wins party during the ’10-’11 season!
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bigpapijugg / May 29, 2010
whether Cal has, does, or will cheat is irrelevant to what im about to say. the man has done alot for Kentucky, he has donated money to our charities, he treats his kids amazing(the only kid that hasnt like Cal was Orton for playing time). at memphis, umass, and kentucky he treats them like family. he raised millions for Haitian relief. people who call him “slime, sleeze, etc.” are just ignorant. why say someone doesnt deserve to be around kids, even if they do cheat. your saying that Calipari shouldnt be around kids yet every kid that he’s coached loved every moment and most are making fortunes right now.
now, barring any trouble UK may or may not go through. Calipari has made this team enjoyable to watch. i like watching a fast game (im an anti-spurs, pro-suns guy). he landed the most talented players in the nation both years. and has yet to do anything to my school to make me dislike him. if the NCAA was to thoroughly investigate each program EVERY program would have violations found. every coach slips up and some know what they are doing but the fact is Cal either follows rules or he sure cleans up after his self because he has never been found of a violation and he himself has had no wrong doing except playing a few kids that the NCAA cleared but later changed their minds.
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bigpapijugg / May 29, 2010
anyone here willing to tell me their coach wouldn’t have started Bledsoe, Rose, or Camby? didnt think so.
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blasphemy / May 29, 2010
They released it to the public, perhaps I should have said, somebody and not “somebody at the NYT” but somebody will get sued. Making an individuals transcripts public is illegal, besides, there is not evidence, what so ever, of foul play.
The guy only paints the picture that way, he never actually makes an allegation.
I highly doubt this will mirror Memphis’s situation. No cheating is alleged and most all of this was well before UK even recruited him. In any case, the NCAA is NOT investigating UK right now, as far as UK knows, or Bledsoe’s eligibility for that matter.
It is a mixture of both, I even said so, but that it was more the former in the mixture rather than the latter is my speculation.
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blasphemy / May 29, 2010
Kinda like how you’ve been silent during the ticket scandal, gotcha!
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RockChalk97 / May 29, 2010
THIS IS AWESOME LOL! I love the comments LOLOLOLOL
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blasphemy / May 29, 2010
I here that circumstantial evidence is very popular this time of year….. literally.
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blasphemy / May 29, 2010
If you are wishing bad things on our program, then you have something against UK. Stay off the bong water.
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blasphemy / May 29, 2010
No more stones for you, you might break the glass house your in, oh wait, you already have.
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blasphemy / May 29, 2010
Death of a Salesman part 2…… the Pump ‘n Run…. lol
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louisianaBlue / May 29, 2010
Why, in all investigations such as this, does no one look at the clearinghouse and say what happened here? If I were a coach and a kid got clearance it’s a done deal. If this is not the case then we need to do away with the clearinghouse and put it all on the coaches!
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BostonCat / May 29, 2010
this douche has spent the past year or so trying to get cal. he found nothing as did the NCAA who spent LOTS of time looking into eric’s grades. all that time and money wasted…they have to get something out of their efforts. sad really, but like i said, this guy is douche and has an ax to grind. congrats on the big story pete. its soooo big that they released it on a friday before memorial day weekend. a day when ZERO people pay attention to the news. thats how big THEY think this is.
(1) every time a school lands a talent, other coaches are going to be pissed off about it and claim the other school cheated. take a tour around message boards and you will see the same from fans. its normal excuse making. sorry if some unnamed assistant coach somewhere is pissy he lost a guy.
(2) its illegal to obtain unreleased transcripts. bledsoe has cause to sue the people in possession of it. so either people do not have it or they got it without his consent are could be in trouble.
(3) there is no NCAA investigation of bledsoe and there wont be without some new information.
(4) when you hear how eric had to grow up, how poor his family was/is….you realize how good you have it. if you want to go after a kid who was homeless, living in a car to upgrading to a $400 a month apartment…go ahead.
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blasphemy / May 29, 2010
A great comment indeed. You took the words out of my mouth.
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socrates / May 29, 2010
I agree about the clearinghouse. If a kid is cleared to play and a coach plays him, nothing wrong has been done in my opinion. That is what happened at Memphis with the Derrick Rose SAT score. He was cleared to play and then a year later ruled ineligible. In the end, Memphis was found guilty, had its final four vacated, and all wins from the season forfeited.
That being said, the guy who was saying earlier that Bledsoe’s grades were questionable and that people around him knew it was right. Many coaches who were recruiting Eric had backed off years ago because they didn’t think that they could get him qualified. Why do you think he was still available at the end of April beginning of May last year? He was the only top 20 player left unsigned when he finally committed.
Even if Cal and Kentucky had nothing to do with his high school transcripts being altered, or the payment of his mother’s rent, or his ACT scores which will almost certainly come into question now, if any of those things pan out, Bledsoe could, and probably would, be ruled ineligible. If that happens, any games he played in will have to be forfeited, the same as with the Rose situation. And no, Cal will not have necessarily done anything wrong again, but again, another team will go on probation on his watch.
It will be interesting to see how it all turns out, but I can assure you of one thing. The UK fans who are on here right now defending Cal and dreaming up conspiracy theories about people out to get UK, will be the very ones on here badgering him calling him a slimeball like they did when he was at Memphis if UK lands on probation and he bolts to coach LeBron in the NBA. Bank on it.
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blasphemy / May 29, 2010
Bledsoe was not the last top 20 player unsigned when he signed. J Wall, Latavious Williams and Lance Stephenson come to mind. In fact, Lance was the Last one to commit, though Williams was left as the only non-college bound kid when he decommited from Memphis.
Get facts straight. Nothing about altered ACT scores was even mentioned, yet you bring it up. I’m not calling up conspiracy theories, the dude was there for MONTHS trying to get this story, that’s a fact. If this is all he could dig up, nothing will happen, save some litigation.
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ransmith / May 29, 2010
Lots of poor kids cruise through public Elementary and HS school, the schools don’t care, just min grades to keep them playing in HS. Then late in the kid’s public school years it is realized they are more than just good, they develop college level athletic skills, and then comes the push to try to meet grades to get into college. This after the school systems failed the kid for years….
There are also plenty of people in and around HS sports for various reasons that will do things to influence kids and their poor parents.
Bottom line these poor kids and their parents are used and taken advantage of in HS and no one cares until one in so many thousand of them gets singled out i.e. Bledsoe and out comes a big gray area story.
Lets face facts, no one (including the NYT) cares about the abuse of the kids! It all comes down to an anti-Calipari agenda… the true attention and concern is about a well educated man who makes millions a year coaching and preparing these kids to become professionals.
No one truly cares about the system that uses these kids!
You could do one heck of a story about the thousands of poor young kids that the system uses up and tosses out, but no one would care.
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tsmooth / May 29, 2010
Memphis didn’t “cheat”. They played a player who was cleared by the NCAA Clearinghouse, and then later was “ineligible”.
Same thing with Bledsoe, though he has yet to be ruled ineligible.
Fact of the matter is, if the NCAA decides that Bledsoe was ineligible, UK played him. Therefore, the situation will be a lot like the Rose/Memphis case.
Again, these allegations are true. Ask anyone in the Birmingham area.
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tsmooth / May 29, 2010
Happened with Memphis, twice. The NCAA cleared Rose to play TWICE.
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tsmooth / May 29, 2010
All the players you mentioned had some sort of issue with their amateur status.
Bledsoe had his academic problems, just like Latavious.
Lance had problems with a site citing all of his sports accomplishments.
Wall had problems due to his relationship with the Cliftons, and had some academic problems. That’s why UNC or Duke didn’t go after him that hard even though he was in their backyard.
Socrates’s comment was pretty much spot on.
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Wheatgerm / May 29, 2010
Socrates, you can’t have it both ways. If, as it appears, Calipari had nothing to do with the matters being looked into, you can’t then blame him for later being the kid’s coach. Anything that happened here didn’t happen “on his watch.” It happened while Bledsoe was in high school. How is Calipari responsible for that in any sense?
He’s not. And the NCAA will once again exonerate him of any wrongdoing. But as MemphoManiac suggested earlier, it doesn’t matter if this has nothing to do with Calipari. The NCAA will punish Kentucky because the NCAA’s own Clearinghouse is again proving itself to be ineffective and a joke. It’s a matter of strict liability, just as it was in the Memphis case.
And to be clear, the NCAA doesn’t have to prove a thing. They have no burden of proof. All they need is a reasonable suspicion, and they’ll place the burden on the player to prove his innocence, just as they did with Rose. That’s how justice is dispensed in the NCAA’s Inquisitional system. How absurd is it that schools such as Memphis are getting into trouble these days not because they did anything wrong, but because they relied on the NCAA Clearinghouse to do its job. What a farce.
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tsmooth / May 29, 2010
Cut the anti-Cal agenda bullshit.
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blasphemy / May 29, 2010
Sorry if it seemed as if I was implying that Memphis cheated, I meant that D. Rose was alleged to have cheated on the ACT. Sorry for the confusion. I’m quite aware of what happened.
But the allegation, that he needed a miracle appear to be correct, but to imply he didn’t have that miracle, is not known to be true, so don’t pass it off as it is. In fact, here’s what a true investigative non-hatchet job article looks like. Before I link it, I will give this quote from it: “the AHSAA ruled that Bledsoe’s move was legitimate.” So already from this quote, in a non-hatchet job article, the NYT article is already wrong in its portrayal of the situation, which is a non-issue. The NCAA cannot, in any case of any doubt, do anything about that move, they would be overstepping their bounds if they did. Oh, and the link… did I mention it’s out of Birmingham?
http://blog.al.com/solomon/2010/05/ncaa_looks_into_bledsoes_past.html
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socrates / May 29, 2010
blasphemy,
You’re right about the names of kids who were unsigned, but everyone knew Wall was following Cal because of the connection with Wes. Williams and Stephenson both had baggage as well with Williams’ grades/qualifying issues and Stephens amateur status with “Lancetv” or whatever that website was called, but your fooling yourself to think that there was nothing to Bledsoe’s grades/qualifying issues. Memphis and Kentucky were the only school’s recruiting the kid. Memphis was only recruiting him because Wall followed Cal. Pastner was even interviewed about Bledsoe when he was there on a recruiting visit and said that get him in school would be questionable. Your also fooling yourself if you think that the NCAA is not going to start sniffing around at ACT scores when his high school transcript is being brought up. And maybe they’ll have a look at Wall’s and Cousins’, two other late qualifiers, while there looking. That’s how these things work. What begins with one thing leads to something else and to something else, until eventually, something is found that can be proven.
Don’t get me wrong. I have nothing against Kentucky. Tony Delk is one of my all time favorite college bball players. I still hate Christian Laettner because of that shot. But don’t sell your soul for John Calipari. I promise you, he’s only with you until he has nothing else to gain. Once he is through with you, he’ll step on your neck to get what he needs or wants. Look at what he did to Memphis when he left. Can you name another coach in history that left and took an entire recruiting class with him to their new school? I know that Henry went to KU and Nolan Dennis went to Baylor, but seriously, can you name anyone who has done anything even close to that?
I hope your right about the only thing happening is some litigation. I hate to see kids who don’t belong in college having their names continuously tarnished because of unfair NBA rules and college coaches who lie, cheat, and steal to use them for a year for their own personal glory.
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blasphemy / May 29, 2010
The issue is that he/she said that Bledsoe was the last to commit, that is wrong, no matter what, and is not spot on. He then goes on to say that all of the UK that are on here defending him will then come back and call him a Slimeball and etc. Now, I didn’t argue that point, though I could have, I can promise that short of Cal leaving for the NBA before he coaches 4 years at UK and short of Cal being explicitly found guilty, I will never call him a slimeball or the like. Oh, and as for UK fans bashing Cal before he to UK, some did, most didn’t. I would know. So no, his comments are not spot on at all, they are sour grapes or ignorant hatred one or the other, perhaps both.
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RockChalk97 / May 29, 2010
LOL this is pretty hilarious.. and I have no idea what you’re talking about
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blasphemy / May 29, 2010
BRAVO! BRAVO! ENCORE!!! ENCORE!!!!!!
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Wheatgerm / May 29, 2010
Oh, come on, tsmooth. You can’t possibly believe there’s no anti-Calipari bias out there. He is perhaps the most hated coach in all of college basketball.
Ask anyone. People absolutely despise the guy. You know it’s true. It’s become a national pasttime to dump on Calipari. And it’s not just fans like us, it’s sportswriters. From Memphis, to Boston, to Seattle. Even some sportswriter in London, Kentucky.
C’mon. You don’t exactly respect the guy, do you?
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blasphemy / May 29, 2010
I don’t believe it is a complete anti-Cal bull, but to say that a lot of the media isn’t covering Cal and UK extra hard is a stretch, and you know it.
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socrates / May 29, 2010
I was only saying that if this proves to be true, then the ineligible player was recruited, admitted, and played under Cal’s watch; just as the Rose SAT was done before he ever stepped foot on Memphis’ campus, the violations occurred on Cal’s watch while he was there.
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blasphemy / May 29, 2010
You just don’t follow recruiting do you? Before we begin with this beatdown, I would like to acknowledge (I don’t twist my wrongness when I am wrong, some people might learn from this) I nit-picked your point (about who was the last person to sign) on the last post and I apologize, however this post doesn’t help your cause. Now, I’m going to show you why you don’t follow recruiting. First, Wall was anything BUT a done deal when Bledsoe signed, many will recall he almost went to Duke and was having a strong Baylor pull as well. NOT A DONE DEAL WHEN BLEDSOE SIGNED. Secondly, UK and Memphis were NOT the only people recruiting Bledsoe, in fact, Bledsoe said he would have gone to FLORIDA had Cal not been at UK.
I still think you are too emotionally invested in this, just as I am starting to believe the same for my friend Ts. It’s hard to remain calm when something strikes home. I know, but your is logic flawed, you are so caught up in this, that you forget that the ACT is useless in this situation, it is known to be a 15 and subpar, but his grades are the issue this time. If it was important, even the NYT guy would have done something, there was clearly nothing to get.
Having said all this, I’m glad we agree about the litigation part, the kids deserve a little privacy.
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blasphemy / May 29, 2010
The point you just made is a fair one, but the post you made up there is not. If you could make your points as so, it would eliminate MANY retorting comments, I assure you.
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blasphemy / May 29, 2010
Since you don’t know what I’m talking about, just Pump ‘n Run….. that’s all I got to say.
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TheFinger / May 29, 2010
3 strikes and YER OUTTA HERE calipari! i know, i know … it’s not his fault at all, but he will be chastised for it and becuz of that, he will now probably bolt for the nba (IF they’ll have him). isn’t it just fitting this story comes out on memorial weekend. the weekend uk fans will forever remember when their bball program flatlined.
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uabfrenchy / May 29, 2010
The unknown coach is Nike Davis from UAB
Bledsoe came to many UAB games when he was in hs school and root for the blazers
Bledsoe didn’t have the grade to play college basketball when he was a junior in hs
He change school because his high school close and he end with coach Ford
In Alabama, everybody know coach ford because he did something similar (i MEAN ILLEGAL ) when he was coaching walter sharpe
http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/sec/alabama/050104.htm
UAB fans are just surprise how long before the whole thing came out
Fyi Cousin story is not much better
Once again Kentucky is In trouble because they mess around WITH UAB
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blasphemy / May 29, 2010
I just can’t place my finger on you, pun intended. in one breath you would make a fair comment and in another be completely unfair. In any case, I think it’s a bunch of blasphemy, play on words intended again.
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blasphemy / May 29, 2010
lol, thanks for the link, the new info, and the joke at the end. But no thanks for all the extra b.s. you can keep that.
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blasphemy / May 29, 2010
Oh, and Ts, I have to recharge, I may be back in a little bit, if not later tonight. All this debating has given me carpal tunnel! just kidding, bbl.
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tsmooth / May 29, 2010
I’m not passing off anything.
I’m telling you that those around him, his recruitment, and those in/around the Memphis/Birmingham area knew this to be FACT.
For further clarification, you can ask Brooks Hansen.
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tsmooth / May 29, 2010
I said “pretty much” spot on. Didn’t say all.
He was wrong regarding Bledsoe.
It was a spot on comment in its premise. Most comments on here are of the “bashing” or “insulting” kind.
It was actually really awesome to see a new comment that not only didn’t bash, but was a joy to read mainly because of its “freshness.”
Most fans bash Calipari, outside of Lexington, that is.
Memphis fans dealt with it when he was in my hometown, and some of them didn’t like him.
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tsmooth / May 29, 2010
He is the most hated coach, aside from Coach K.(for some reason, I can’t stand him or Duke…)
I do not think the NYT were out to “get” Calipari. Some said the same thing last summer when UConn’s investigation was brought to light by Yahoo Sports. Now, they have 8 violations.
In any perspective, the NYT are a well reviewed, upkept publication that wouldn’t allow a writer to go after a particular coach. He wrote that the NCAA is looking into Bledsoe. How is that out to get Calipari?
I’ve never liked Calipari, but do you see me going out of my way to harbor ill against the guy? No.
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tsmooth / May 29, 2010
Obviously.
They are. Why? Because it’s UK, and Cal has left his last schools under probation.
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tsmooth / May 29, 2010
Also, last summer almost every publication had something covering Memphis.
First it was Rose and his SAT.
Then it was Dozier and his SAT.
Then it was Cal leaving.
Then Pastner being hired.
Then Latavious signing, and subsequently leaving.
It finally culminated when Memphis was to forfeit the entire 2007-2008 season.
Trust me, Memphis fans know how it feels to be in the public limelight, and to be scrutinized by every human with two eyes and an empty brain.
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tsmooth / May 29, 2010
Blas,
I am a little emotionally involved in this. As I said in a previous post, I don’t like Calipari. Never have, but it won’t stop me from being as objective about this as I possibly can.
BTW…Wall was always a done deal for Calipari, just like Mike Gilchrest. Baylor only got a look because they hired one of the Cliftons on their staff, and Coach K has acknowledged that he didn’t go after Wall that hard, same thing Roy Williams said.
This is coming from somebody who writes about basketball recruiting for a living.
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RockChalk97 / May 29, 2010
I still have no idea. Is this supposed to be pointed at Kansas? I’m a college basketball fan not a Kansas fan. The username is an inside joke with friends. Good try though. Still amusing to see how frustrated you’re getting lol.
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tsmooth / May 29, 2010
He’s bringing up the Kansas Ticket Scandal, which actually had very little to do with Kansas, and was mainly about the Pump Brothers, two basketball power brokers.
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RockChalk97 / May 29, 2010
Ah gotcha. Thanks tsmooth!
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pastaboy / May 29, 2010
So he started studying harder and was being tutored because he had a chance at a top scholarship …..happens every year with top players . This article is 100% innuendo and borders on libel ……next .
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blasphemy / May 29, 2010
Upon further review, the Pump ‘n Run has sent….. 8? players to Kansas, ya, nothing to do with Kansas at all. Mario Chalmers, Elijah Johnson, David Padgett, Omar Wilkes, Jeff Withey and KC Pump N Run alums Tyrel Reed, Travis Releford and Brady Morningstar. What do all of these former players have in common? They are pump n runners. Make no mistake about it, the connection is there. Now, time will tell if anything comes of this, and I’m not making accusations, but there is a connection to the KU program, to say otherwise is simply false.
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blasphemy / May 29, 2010
For further proof EVERYBODY IN THE BIRMINGHAM AREA does not agree with you, click the link. So it’s not FACT, it’s idle speculation until proven otherwise.
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blasphemy / May 29, 2010
9, forgot to edit the 8.
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blasphemy / May 29, 2010
No, 8, nevermind, it was the guy in the article who couldn’t count. Here it is if you don’t believe me:
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2010/may/29/coach-defends-pump-n-run/
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blasphemy / May 29, 2010
I’m going to have to disagree with you again, I felt the comment implicitly bashed Cal. Like how the NYT one did. Implying things and providing idle speculation when not needed is really what people use in articles to “paint” their thoughts. I’ll agree to disagree.
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blasphemy / May 29, 2010
Dude, you realize that you just said “cut the anti-Cal bull” then went on to agree that he is being targeted. You do realize this?
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blasphemy / May 29, 2010
Dude, you’re 17, cut the “I do this for a living.” You can’t be completely objective though, you can only try. There is no such thing as a done deal, save Gilchrist, just ask Marquis Teague, Terrence Jones, countless others. We will have to agree to disagree. I also disagree on the Coach K saying he didn’t go after him hard. Provide a link for the Coach K thing and I may believe you, until then though, I disagree.
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bigpapijugg / May 29, 2010
last top 20 recruit to commit? John Wall, Lance Stephenson, Latavius Williams, etc. all signed AFTER bledsoe committed.
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bigpapijugg / May 29, 2010
wall is not connected to wes at all. if he was why wouldnt he sign with wes’s agency, or even an agency that is partnered with wes’s. he WAS connected to clifton who was a former agency. the only recruits Cal go as result of Wes were rose, wagner, evans. every player we had signed with an agent who isnt connected to WWW. so stop with the WWW bullshit.
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RockChalk97 / May 29, 2010
Who said otherwise? More importantly what the hell does this have to do with anything?
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tsmooth / May 29, 2010
LOL. Whatever makes you feel better.
I’ll put it to where you can understand it: talk to those in THE KNOW about Bledsoe. See what you hear.
It’s not speculation, and if you can’t see that, then you’re even more of a homer than I thought you were.
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tsmooth / May 29, 2010
So, by your logic, the Bob Gibbons TOC must be sending players to UNC or Duke.
It is circumstantial that they went to KU.
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tsmooth / May 29, 2010
Ditto
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tsmooth / May 29, 2010
No, I said that they are covering UK and Cal more than usual.
Why? Because that’s why Cal brings to a program, and that’s exactly what UK paid for: attention.
Gillespie was no media darling, Calipari is. Therefore, he gets more attention.
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tsmooth / May 29, 2010
Sure am 17, but I get paid to do it. Therefore, I make a living off it.
It pays for gas, my cell phone and internet bill.
When you write for Rivals, they require you to sign a contract stating that you are completely objective. I try my hardest to uphold that, and very rarely come across as a biased writer.
Gilchrest and Wall were done deals to whatever team Calipari was coaching. To say that that statement is false shows ignorance. I was around when Cal was going after Wall, and on many occasions, Wall sat next to WorldWide Wes at a game. WWW is also tied to Gilchrest.
Had Calipari stayed at Memphis, they would be wearing Tiger Blue.
TJones and Teague were not done deals. Didn’t argue that whatsoever.
Also, I can’t provide a link to Coach K saying he didn’t go after Wall that hard. Why? A story wasn’t made of it. I interviewed Elliot Williams, and he recalled Coach K saying he didn’t go after Wall that hard due to amateur issues.
Disagree all you want. I am simply bringing the facts.
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tsmooth / May 29, 2010
Obviously you don’t know what went on in Wall and Gilchrest’s recruitment then.
Tisk tisk.
Wagner wasn’t tied to Wesley at the time. Cal got him for giving his dad a job on the staff.
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tsmooth / May 29, 2010
Btw..
You can only go from a 1.9 GPA for 3 years of academic to a 2.5 if you get a 4.3 GPA in your final year.
Something to think on.
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finalfours / May 29, 2010
Blas…
It sounds like you are a bit defensive. Somebody once told me that if someone says your being defensive, then you probably are.
I know you think you know everything about recruiting and college basketball, and now after just 1 yr with Cal… You know everything about him as well. Well here’s a news flash for you. You don’t. I don’t. No one is an expert and no one knows the true stories of what really goes on behind the scenes.
As for Cal…. The facts are the facts. Good coach, great recruiter. Mastered the recruiting in the one and done era of college basketball. He does a lot for the community. Also known for being a coach that can’t win the big game. He gets outcoached every single time.
As for Ky, Im sure you are excited to be relevant again after a long time of being a joke , but don’t let your excitement blind you of reality. The team you had last year was Memphis team. Wall was going where Cal was and cousins was Memphis no doubt. Period.
As for Cal, once is a fluke and twice starts a trend. Umass, Memphis and now Ky. Problems at all 3. If you think that this bledsoe issue is fluff and the Ny times is wrong or premature or a conspiracy, then you can add naive to your resume. You seem to be in denial because of your love for ky, but that doesn’t change the dynamic and it doesn’t change the fact that cal is the common denominator at 3 schools for problems with recruiting…. Whether you agree with the ncaa or not. It is what it is, and I know without a doubt you can’t be happy hearing that there may be an issue after just one year with cal at ky no matter how desperate you are to have ky relevant again in college basketball . Wise up.
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fearthephog25 / May 29, 2010
AHHH!!!!!!!!!
I slept WONDERFUL last night. How about everyone else? 🙂
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fearthephog25 / May 29, 2010
Mr. Emmert is the director. LOL
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fearthephog25 / May 29, 2010
Thats not all he took out of your mouth!!! LOL Sorry, but I had to, you walked right into that one bla.
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fearthephog25 / May 29, 2010
Settle down, I thought you two were friends? LOL Some people are on the EDGE here, and probably didn’t get a whole lot of sleep last night.
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fearthephog25 / May 29, 2010
“Win at all costs” = 2009-10 MEMPHucky Basketball Team. I bet that BULLS head coaching position is looking more enticing now.
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blasphemy / May 29, 2010
It is speculation, until proven otherwise, that’s how logic works. you’ve provided no links, what-so-ever, just claims that you are “in-the-know.” Make no mistake about it, if you can’t see this, your less logical than I thought. Sorry if I don’t trust your “info.” Just sorry, nothing else I can say except that I will agree to disagree. Oh, and unlike some people, I don’t claim that I’m fully impartial or objective. I only claim that I’m logical. You can debate that if you want.
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blasphemy / May 29, 2010
I never said it wasn’t circumstantial, just said it was a connection is all. But as the NCAA has shown lately, circumstantial is plenty enough convict…. right? Memphis seems to be the poster child for circumstantial conviction.
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blasphemy / May 29, 2010
I did walk into that one, good catch……………. oops, I did it again.
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blasphemy / May 29, 2010
Ya, you did, it’s a logic thing:
1st: “Cut the anti-Cal agenda bullshit.”
2nd: “They are (reporting on UK and Cal a lot). Why? Because it’s UK, and Cal has left his last schools under probation.” -which implies they don’t like Cal and UK
3rd: “(Cal and Memphis were) scrutinized by every human with two eyes and an empty brain.” -people scrutinized Cal (and memphis, but irrelevant but irrelevant for the logical connection.)
Combined, this means the media doesn’t like him AND they scrutinized him. Pretty much a psychological and logical concoction for “anti-Calipari agenda” (the logic play works when you read “anti” as dislike, and not with”. I didn’t mean that post to be offensive, it was a joke on the play of logic that was in there. I thought it was a joke and you saw it….. sorry for the confusion.
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blasphemy / May 29, 2010
I slept just as well as you did fearthephog, just less of the good sleep lol (work).
Sorry if I don’t believe you Ts, nothing against you, it just the fact that I don’t trust many people in the first place (all politicians, all columnists, 99% of journalists, cult leaders, people who comment on blogs, etc.)
My thing with the “done-deal” is not that I’m saying it’s not “very likely” to happen, but that it’s not sealed. Wall, for example, waited right until it was time. Here’s were you argue, it was for publicity! Here’s were I counter, really so he took a trip to Big Blue Madness for the publicity? He was upset Roy didn’t recruit him harder because he was a done deal to Calipari? With these counters I don’t expect to change your mind, but I am saying I don’t believe in done deals, save Gilchrist, the family connection WWW had with G’s mother, well before Christ was conceived, was too much to not be a strong influence. More than that, my point is that the term “done deal” is thrown around WAY to casually anymore, see: Jessie Wildcat.
More to this, you say you write for rivals…. so you could have written a story saying Williams said Coach K didn’t recruit Wall hard, it would have been an interesting story. Then you could have linked it. Links provide a basis for credibility, and not everybody can just “take your word” it’s not how things work. Even math and physics people have to get people to confirm their work, ask Einstein. Forgive me for being this blunt, but your word is garbage unless it can be verified. This is all unless you’re a Chinese politician, then we must obey it.
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blasphemy / May 29, 2010
Ok, you’ve lost your credibility and fairness here. You can retake classes and take additional classes to boost your gpa in H.S. You didn’t even provide parameters for the calculation but instead tossed it out into the wind as some idle common knowledge, in math, physics or any science, you would be crucified. You see, this is why I can’t believe all of your comments, when you bring utter crap like this to the table. Try to do better next comment.
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blasphemy / May 29, 2010
1st (paragraph): Never said I knew everything about recruiting, I’m agreeing to disagree with Ts, perhaps you missed those points. If he, or you for that matter, provide links then I have no REASON to trust ANY person on this blog save Adam Z. I don’t know everything, hell, I don’t even subscribe to info, I just get all the free stuff I can and don’t care. Proof and logic is how debates usually take place outside of the political arena.
2nd (1st two lines): In the first line….you’re HALF right, when one in general claims that another person is defensive, the one making the claim can often times, not always be defensive. In psychology, we call this projection. The person who told you that has no mastery of psychology what-so-ever. Making general assumptions like that is very dangerous and deeply ignorant. (this is well documented, check out your local DSM IV, perhaps V by now?) Also in all fairness I’ve thrown the term around to down other people and sometimes as a joke so I’m not clean in this area, or many psychological terms for that matter, but I’m honest about it. You have to give me the honesty points.
3rd (back to 1st full paragraph): Still on your first paragraph, I want to re-iterate this, because you just didn’t seem to read most of my comments: I NEVER CLAIMED THAT I KNOW EVERYTHING or even a lot for that matter. I just asked for proof which couldn’t be provided. Is proof too much to ask for? By your logic it isn’t…. but you crucify me….. logiclessly. I just don’t get it.
4th: I have issue with one point in the 2-3rd paragraphs but I’m not going to bring it up because it’s not really that big. I’ll just write two sentences saying I won’t talk about it instead.
5th: “As for Cal, once is a fluke and twice starts a trend” so the laws of statistics cease to exist for Calipari? Really? Don’t use a math/statistical argument especially when you don’t know what you are talking about.
5.2: “If you think that this bledsoe issue is fluff and the Ny times is wrong or premature or a conspiracy, then you can add naive to your resume” Hmm, so waiting until the facts come out is naive? Perhaps you need to add logicless to your resume.
5.3: “You seem to be in denial because of your love for ky” you seem to love talking about psychology even though you don’t know anything about it. Denial would be if Cal was accused, evidence came to light that was irrefutable, like recruits claiming he, himself, gave them money, and me saying, “there’s just no evidence” Perhaps psychology isn’t your thing?
5.4: “but that doesn’t change the dynamic and it doesn’t change the fact that cal is the common denominator at 3 schools for problems with recruiting” One of your fairest comment, I can’t deny that at all, circumstantial, but a fair point, as it doesn’t imply (explicitly) anything negative.
5.5: “Whether you agree with the ncaa or not. It is what it is, and I know without a doubt you can’t be happy hearing that there may be an issue after just one year with cal at ky no matter how desperate you are to have ky relevant again in college basketball” you see…. you started off good, then you lost it with the assumptions and overtly implicit negative connotations.
Overall a very shoddy comment trying to belittle my comments without any real fact or mastery of any subject, and one without actually fully reading or understanding my comments. Perhaps you are the one who needs to wise up.
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blasphemy / May 29, 2010
1st: I meant to say that if he or you ****don’t*** provide links, I have no reason to trust you. sorry for the typo.
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UofA BJ / May 29, 2010
SHOCKING, Like I have been saying CAL is a sleezeball. And sure enough he is going to fuck kentucky. Too bad UK fans.
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UofA BJ / May 29, 2010
You are a clown. wake up and take those blinders off UK fans.
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UofA BJ / May 29, 2010
What a dumb comment.
You cant land b2b no 1 classes without cheating. get used to it
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MemfoManiac / May 29, 2010
All UK fans keep talking about how Cal was cleared of any wrongdoing at UMass & Memphis. If you ever read Tom Sawyer you’ll see where his Aunt smacked him for something his brother did, after she found out it was Sid she said “Well I know you’ve done something bad today and just take the lick for that.” Same thing will apply to Cal & KY when the NCAA hands down it’s punishment. They may not be able to prove anything, but they know there’s some wrongdoing going on somewhere.
In response to another poster, Cal didn’t recruit Bledsoe that hard while he was at Memphis, but Pastner did after he got there and that’s when Cal went after Bledsoe.
Y’all notice how Knight & Jones only signed financial aid agreements and not letters of intent with KY? This protects the players and allows them to leave KY without loss of eligibility any time before they start school/participate in sports (I believe they have two weeks after starting classes and/or 72 hours of sports training/participation). That’s how Cal takes care of his players, he’s known about this investigation for a while, probably since the beginning and he’s trying to minimize the damage to his players when he leaves.
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UofA BJ / May 29, 2010
Kiss TJ and BK goodbye along with everyone else.lol
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tsmooth / May 29, 2010
Not claims if they’re true, but I digress. I’m tired of playing petty games with you.
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tsmooth / May 29, 2010
No, seems like UK has taken up the mantle.
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tsmooth / May 29, 2010
I didn’t write for Rivals then.
You know that most recruits just love to feel wanted/recrutied. EX: Joe Jackson. He was always going to commit to Memphis, regardless of coach. He could have verballed in his junior year or any time before he signed, yet he didn’t.
I won’t even begin to write on the other points.
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tsmooth / May 29, 2010
Yep…not crap. He has a cumulative 1.9 GPA going into his senior year. Then he suddenly gets a 2.5? Just high enough to get into college.
You’re telling me that he took the “online class” to replace a D with an A…the second time he took it? Yea, that’s flawed logic.
IDK the calculations, but my boss Bryan has all but written a story on it, so he’s the one to ask, not me.
Again, I get crucified for passing along info. Seems to become a regular occurence for you.
Oh wait, I cover college basketball and recruiting, and you don’t….Seems like I still have my media credentials, while you don’t.
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tsmooth / May 29, 2010
Done with these petty games.
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crautdawg / May 29, 2010
I wonder what happens to Eric Bledsoe if he falls out of the first round and misses out on a guaranteed contract. Who’s responsible for making sure that this young man learns the life lessons he will need to obtain a successful future?
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finalfours / May 29, 2010
Blas-
Again, You think you know everything…..in your own head you obviously think you are a master debater. Your not. My post stands . Period.
You can type a thousand words and act like you are some professor at Harvard, but you don’t fool me. I know your type. You don’t have a clue.
Bottom line….. Cal is The head coach at a school and there is a recruiting issue. That is 3 times…. 3 schools. Period. End of discussion.
Wise up.
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UAWildcat / May 30, 2010
Bledose will do fine even if he is not drafted. Which is a big if plenty of players make a good living playing in Europe.
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tsmooth / May 30, 2010
UH OH…some new information came out about UK today…again…I wonder what happens if I speak about it…Maybe Blas will say something or argue about my post…Maybe some UK poster will say that I’m biased or not objective…or Maybe I’m trying to ruffle some feathers…Who knows? The possiblities are endless…
Oh, btw, UK’s spring semester GPA, which was promised to be “much higher” was only a 2.18, as compared to the fall semester’s GPA of 2.025. Yep, that’s a lot of improvement.
And since I know Blas is going to ask for a link(godforbid I don’t have one), here you go 🙂
http://www.kentucky.com/2010/05/28/1282921/caliparis-squads-spring-grades.html
It’s by everyone’s favorite writer, Jerry Tipton!!
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BlueCat32 / May 30, 2010
That’s not new,Jerry must be slipping in his old age…That was known about a week ago…
One of the reasons it didn’t climb as expected was due to speculation that one of the players turning pro didn’t finish up his classes…And it wasn’t E.B
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BlueCat32 / May 30, 2010
Here’s another link dated May 25,2010 that states the same and I knew 2 days before this…..Like I said old news….
http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20100525/SPORTS03/5250353/1029/SPORTS03/Calipari+s+Wildcats+posted+2.18+GPA+this+spring++well+below+Kentucky+average
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tsmooth / May 30, 2010
One and done’s hardly ever finish classes
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tsmooth / May 30, 2010
Good of you for knowing it in advance. Shows you have good contacts.
I just heard about it when I posted it from one of my pals that goes to Kentucky.
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BlueCat32 / May 30, 2010
Getting back to E.B. and this NYT article…
From my understanding this investigation took place back in Feb.
Nothing came from it and as far as the University has commented on that they are unaware of any new investigation going on….
So,as of now this is old news as well….
Nothing to see here,move on!
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BlueCat32 / May 30, 2010
Unfortunately that is true,I wish they change the rule,make it 2 years or go straight out of H.S.
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tsmooth / May 30, 2010
I agree 100%.
Make it like collegiate baseball mixed with collegiate football. Go straight out of high school, or stay for 3 years.
The one and done rule leads to excitement and star power, but it also leads to NCAA violations.
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tsmooth / May 30, 2010
The Alabama High School Athletic Association is looking into the Bledsoe case as well..
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BlueCat32 / May 30, 2010
Well,let them look…They already cleared him previously…UK compliance staff thoroughly reviewed E.B. more so than any other student athlete to my knowledge..
Happy hunting…
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BlueCat32 / May 30, 2010
Here is a blog TIFWIW but,I think this guy makes some valid points…
Late night update on Bledsoe story
http://ukfan.courier-journal.com/
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fearthephog25 / May 30, 2010
If they are required to go 2 or 3 years, they will flunk out like a couple of uk’s former players. That is why thet were urged to go to the NBA by calimari, he knew they would not be eligible. Sad but true.
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BlueCat32 / May 30, 2010
Wrong as usual…If they were forced to go for 2 years,the players would be held more accountable for their actions…E.B. had he returned for his Shop. season “Would” have been eligible….
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BlueCat32 / May 30, 2010
Are you referring to this article?
Alabama High School Athletic Association
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=5233306
Even “IF” they find that the coach did indeed pay the monies as far as EB is concerned,he’d just have to reimburse it…
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fearthephog25 / May 30, 2010
LOL Try again please. Try not to be so NAIVE. If the kid cannot pass high school, what makes you think he can succeed in college? Please explain uk’s below standard gpa then.
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fearthephog25 / May 30, 2010
The real issue here is not so much Bledsoes grades, because we all know he didn’t attend uk to be a lawyer, doctor, or master of business. The question at hand is receiving improper financial benefits, thus stripping him of his amatuer status and making him ineligible per NCAA Regulations.
The difference between the Wall and Bledsoe situations is that Wall paid the money back to become eligible, ie, he was considered an ineligible player until he did so. Whether Bledsoe pays the money back now or not, is entirely different because he would have played under the guise of having received improper benefits and was thus an ineligible player.
So you see, Wall’s and Bledsoe’s cases are not the same.
After Bledsoe, then Kanter becomes an issue. But I assume the NCAA will let him play before looking into it in more depth, this time next year. I say let the kid play, unlike
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fearthephog25 / May 30, 2010
Jones & Knight, Kanter signed his LOI and is stuck at uk. Sorry, accidentally hit send on my itouch.
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crautdawg / May 30, 2010
Successful European players from the US has shown a level of maturity that Eric hasn’t been shown at UK. I hav serious doubts that a kid who can’t get a C average with all the hand-holding of athletes would make a smooth transition to the enviroment of europe.
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blasphemy / May 30, 2010
That….. was a good comment………….. ftp, you look different. HEY, who are you and what did you do with the real ftp!
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blasphemy / May 30, 2010
Wise up.
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blasphemy / May 30, 2010
The new GPA is old info, I thought you were a world class writer? Perhaps at 17 you don’t really know what your doing and KNEW this was old news.
http://twitter.com/UKCoachCalipari/status/14711235748
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blasphemy / May 30, 2010
Contradictory statement on my part, meant to say: ….what you’re doing. If you were a paid writer who knows all the inside stuff, you would have known that the new bad GPA was old news…….
Sorry if there was in case of confusion. Haste makes waste on my part.
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blasphemy / May 30, 2010
It’s just not new…….. it’s been out in the open to various news outlets for some time now……… nothing to do with contacts…….
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blasphemy / May 30, 2010
What was your point with this post, saying there exist done deals idk? I guess we will agree to disagree. But I really don’t get this post and what you are debating….
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blasphemy / May 30, 2010
I’m not familiar with that term, perhaps you could explain?
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blasphemy / May 30, 2010
Petty? You’re above logic? Then by all means, skip out. Right now though, that’s all they are, claims. This is because they are not proven, at all. Apparently we disagree on the proof. Agree to disagree right now then, let time tell? Since, I think, you believe they are proven sufficiently, perhaps you would like to wager a bet? Similar to the one I have with ftp: the loser has to make a post saying that the other posters affiliation is the best and greatest (sport of choice of the winner) program in the world, all at the winners discretion. On top of that, the loser must apologize for being bias (that means me too). Would you care to wager it or agree to a bet, but change the “price” of the bet? Oh, and the bet winner/loser is determined if UK losses games, because of E.B. Perhaps you would like to change the parameters of the winner/loser of the bet? Perhaps not bet at all? I await your response.
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blasphemy / May 30, 2010
I know you feel bad for us, try not to take it too hard.
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tsmooth / May 30, 2010
never said I was a world class writer. Seems like your logic is to put words in others’ mouths.
Oh, I know what I’m doing. I was trying to get a response out of you, which you did. So I succeeded.
Great job bringing up Calipari’s tweet. Not like he always tells the truth or anything. OH WAIT. He doesn’t. “I love it in Memphis. I’m not going anywhere.”-John Calipari, March 2009.
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tsmooth / May 30, 2010
or vacate Bledsoe’s senior season, according to the NYT’s new article
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blasphemy / May 30, 2010
Ya, you know what your doing, I bet you tell yourself that at night when your going to sleep. You can’t even admit you messed up? Grow up kid. I admit when I mess up, if you provided a link to PROVE you write for rivals, then I will admit I was wrong in assuming you didn’t. AND I would apologize for assuming you didn’t. But you’re not going to provide that are you? Till you do, grow up, just grow up.
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blasphemy / May 30, 2010
I did write up a long huge post detailing all of your mistakes you made in your previous post, but it wouldn’t post for me for whatever reason, and I’m po’d because I forgot to copy it before I clicked “add comment”. However, until you provide a link or something, proving you work for rivals, you have no more credibility than I do, even though I have a college degree and you don’t, my name is Ronald Blaine Mullins, here is the link:
http://legacy.bluegrass.kctcs.edu/marketing/outstandinggraduates_2009/
If you want further proof, we can email each other and I can send a copy of my drivers license and classes that I took there. If you provide a link that you work at rivals I will apologize, because I’m a man about things, whilst you are not. Till then, grow up kid, just grow up.
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BlueCat32 / May 30, 2010
Who said it was like J.Wall…
1st it has to be proven that anything happened.
2nd if it is proven,it’s more like the Corey Magette case.
3rd if “improper benefits” were received,the remedy would be just to pay them back…
4th do some research,I’m sure you’re capable of digging up some examples…
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BlueCat32 / May 30, 2010
The link I provided says “Steve Savarese, the executive director of the Alabama association, said Parker might have to forfeit its season, which ended with a loss in the state title game, if the allegation proves true.
Still has nothing to do with E.B’s academics..
The common remedy for “improper benefits” would be to simply pay them back..
Haven’t you heard of the Corey Magette case?
It would be the same thing “IF” anything improper is found…
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BlueCat32 / May 30, 2010
I posted this link above,it shows that EB would have been good to go had he returned.I guess you must have missed it some how.It doesn’t really surprise me that you only want to point out only the negative.That’s the way some are.
Kentucky has not been contacted by the NCAA about the Bledsoe investigation, a source from the school told ESPN.com’s Andy Katz. The source also said Bledsoe would have been academically eligible at Kentucky had he returned for his sophomore season.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=5231161
So,there’s your proof.
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tsmooth / May 30, 2010
Not debating a thing
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tsmooth / May 30, 2010
http://memphis.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=1224&tid=143479743&mid=143479743&sid=962&style=2
it’s a premium article, but you should be able to read it if you subscribe to Rivals.
You never asked for proof that I write for Rivals, but since you have, there you go.
I get a montly stipend, I talk to tons of recruits on a daily basis, I’ve talked to the coaching staff at Memphis numerous times, and I’m very active in the high school/AAU scene.
How’s that for growing up?
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tsmooth / May 30, 2010
I provided it in an earlier post, go look.
Start your apologies now
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tsmooth / May 30, 2010
I’m very familiar with the Magette case.
I’m not arguing anything, just stating that they might vacate Bledsoe’s final year in high school.
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tsmooth / May 30, 2010
Oh, I didn’t mess up. Forgot to mention that.
My job is to cover Memphis athletics, not UK’s.
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tsmooth / May 30, 2010
Btw, that is an interview I did with one of 2012’s most touted players, Winston Shepard.
I also have interviews slated for other 2011, 2012, and 2013 players in the oncoming weeks.
I’m also going to be at the Memphis Elite Camp, multiple AAU tournaments in the Mid-South, and I plan on going to the Adidas 64 in Vegas.
Need more info? Or will that suffice?
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finalfours / May 30, 2010
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=5234030
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blasphemy / May 30, 2010
I can’t access it, but implicitly I found you, Taylor, *******I apologize for belittling you for not having said job.******* You don’t deserve an apology for anything else though, including me belittling you for being such a child. Evidence by: “How’s that for growing up?” You see, that’s how a child responds. You will not commend any respect from me anymore. To be sure, you are not completely objective, saying you are implies you are either in denial or are lying to others blatantly. College, assuming you go, should remedy this, and hopefully get you off of here before you make a complete fool of yourself, again (see the “you have great sources” comment then see “HAH, I bated you, and you didn’t see it coming” comment). (I almost spelled fool as “full” the joke would have then been on me lol) I will leave you with this, for the record, it was obvious that providing a link would have been needed to prove yourself, and regardless, it wouldn’t mean you are demi-god here in the comments section, especially when you are 17.
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tsmooth / May 30, 2010
Age is just a number. Me being 17 has nothing to do with me being more involved with the sports scene than you. Me being 17 hasn’t stopped Rivals from PAYING me to write. Me being 17 hasn’t stopped recruits that are either my age or younger to talk to me. Simply put, the only person who seems to have a problem with my age, is you.
And, the snide comment I put, “How’s that for growing up?” was for you continually calling me a kid. See, even though you are older than me, you may not be more mature or adult-like. I budget money, manage a checking account, drive, and talk to many adults on a daily basis.
I am going to college, and I do not appreciate you implying that I may not go. You see, I have a 32 on the ACT when I took it as a junior, and since then, colleges are hounding me. Such include: Columbia, Washington and Lee, Cornell, Colgate, Brown, University of Chicago, Vanderbilt, USC, and Georgia Tech.
To be honest, I could not care less about gaining respect from anybody on this board. Me posting here was never to gain respect or friend. I started posting here to share my basketball knowledge, not to get into debates based on logic(those being the only ones you seem to get in).
Nobody, I repeat nobody, is completely objective, but it’s a writer’s job to remain as objective as possible, and I uphold that. You, not being a writer, wouldn’t know that. It’s hard, and I admit that, but you do it to the best of your ability.
Yea, I’m not going to get off of here. And so far, I haven’t made an ass of myself. I’ve provided FACTS. I’ve provided ample discussion on basketball topics, but you twist the topic into a debate about logic and coherency and having one prove one’s self.
And btw, I do have good sources. You read articles for information, I hear from the horse’s mouth.
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blasphemy / May 30, 2010
Ya, you did mess up, it is evident. Just grow up.
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blasphemy / May 30, 2010
I still await your response. Too chicken for the bet?
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tsmooth / May 30, 2010
I screwed up by posting GPA’s a few days late because I cover Memphis, and not UK? Hmm…that’s funny
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tsmooth / May 30, 2010
Not chicken at all. You see, bets are child’s play.
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blasphemy / May 30, 2010
Ok, let me help you understand what you still aren’t getting, I’ll try this one more time, WE DON’T CARE THAT YOU WRITE “RECRUITING” ARTICLES AS AN ENTRY-LEVEL WRITER AT RIVALS. THEREFORE, WE DON’T TRUST YOUR FACTS, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THEY AREN’T SUPPORTED WITH DOCUMENTATION. Passing an english 101 class would really be in your best interest.
Since you can’t understand these basic implied or explicit reckonings, that’s what makes you less mature than me. If you would like to reach my level, I would suggest a major in math or physics. Oh, what also makes me more mature…. is the fact of when I’m wrong and proven so, I apologize. You might want to take note of that one, as you have admitted to be wrong, even though you CLEARLY were, take note young child, it’s called being a man. Btw, you haven’t taken me up on my wager yet. When you get some balls, go do so.
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blasphemy / May 30, 2010
No you’re not.
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blasphemy / May 30, 2010
No, acting like you were in complete control and was baiting me……. that was funny. Especially from a PAID writer, who has “all the info” who “covers basketball for a living.” You won’t grow up until you admit you were wrong, you are no better than Pasta right now.
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edwindgotigersgo / May 30, 2010
i always find it hilarious when UK “homers” post no substantiated rebuttals. Please UK fans quit drinking the blue Kool Aid and understand that you have a ‘snake” as a coach and he always leaves before anything can “stick” to him. Lastly, whenever a source is never actually cited by Andy Katz on an ESPN posting please know that the unnamed source is usually Cal or http://WWW…thus the unnamed “source”!!
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fearthephog25 / May 30, 2010
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Wrong again.
At this stage in the game, its too late to try and pay it back. That doesn’t solve anything.
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tsmooth / May 30, 2010
I know right?
Good post, Edwin.
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tsmooth / May 30, 2010
Who’s we? I only see one person, that is you, a guy who goes to a community college in Kentucky.
Don’t need to pass an English class in college, or take any courses in college, for that matter. I have credentials. You don’t.
Entry level? TigerSportsReport.com is not entry level. Community college is an entry level into a university. TigerSportsReport.com is not an entry level writing job. You don’t sign up to get it; you earn it based on your merits.
Yea, calling someone a “young child”, or “immature” or stating that I need to take courses in college to get on “your level” is very mature. Also, “when you get some ball, go do so” comment was grammatically incorrect unless you were trying to tell me to make a wager, but I won’t.
It’s highly immature to make a wager based on potential NCAA sanctions, which if you understand the case and cases in the past like it(Rose, Bush) then you see that Bledsoe was ineligible. Therefore, sanctions should be forthcoming.
Yet again, you show yourself to be debate nothing in the sports arena, and focus on maturity, age, college classes, and male genitalia.
You think I don’t understand your responses. I do. I just choose to look over stupidity.
Btw..everything you hear or told can’t be documented. If you knew anything about anything, you would know that. I can’t provide a link for a high school coach telling me where his player is looking at. But of course, you chose to take my words and make them seem like they show you’re right.
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Please, show me where I was wrong. You said I was wrong. I posted the GPA to get a rise out of you. It worked. I heard about it last night. How does that make me wrong? I wasn’t wrong about the GPA. I wasn’t wrong about posting it. If it were so CLEAR, I would have seen it. Maybe it’s wrong through your UK shades, but I don’t see it with my glasses on.
Lastly, it takes “balls” to actually grow up and stop looking for bets. As I said earlier, that’s childs play. It’s beneath me to make a bet based on NCAA sanctions. Win total for UK this year, yea. NCAA sanctions, no.
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tsmooth / May 30, 2010
Am
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tsmooth / May 30, 2010
Never said I have “all the info”. Putting words in my mouth.
Wow, you just don’t stop do you.
Again, I could not care less about your opinion or who you respect. My feelings aren’t hurt, sorry.
Also, you look like the kid right now, not me.
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tsmooth / May 30, 2010
I’m going to go ahead and be the bigger man, blasphemy.
I’m not going to argue or trade words with you anymore.
I’ll say that I was wrong for going to the extent that I did. I’m sorry. I’ll also say that I might have been out of line with some of my comments.
This coming from a “young child”, do you agree to end this petty battle?
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blasphemy / May 30, 2010
Then bet me. You are so unsure of your words that you can’t back them up with a bet. I’ll let you off if it’s a religious thing, outside of that, I will crucify you otherwise. (see what I did there, god I love plays on words)
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BlueCat32 / May 30, 2010
No,U are the one that’s constantly wrong on this board…Regardless it’s not going to matter.
Do you actually believe that the H.S. coach paid the rent in check or money order?
If,and I say If he did pay the monies…Do you think he will admit to that?(I think not)
It’s his word against the landlords…
Show me where it states the money if paid can’t be reimbursed.I’ll be waiting on your response….
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fearthephog25 / May 30, 2010
Who cares? Let him pay it back. Its meaningless. LOL Thats all besides the point. If and when they prove rent was PAID, be prepared to vacate wins. Im sorry, but it is out of your hands, you are powerless and at the mercy of Mr. Emmert and NCAA right now.
Good to know though that you approve of cheating and allowing an ineligible player to play though. LOL As long as they can’t prove it right? Win at all costs, right? 🙂 Sounds as though you are losing sleep over this situation though, as you should.
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fearthephog25 / May 30, 2010
It is not a coincidence that NEGATIVITY always follows your coach. You guys hired him along with his excess baggage and sold out your history and tradition. Who knows if you guys will ever gain it back? If you do, it is going to take a VERY long time.
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BlueCat32 / May 30, 2010
Just as I thought you can’t prove a thing that you say.(I’m so surprised)
The NCAA hasn’t contacted the coach…
It’s going to be investigated by the Alabama High School Athletic Association…
Where does it say I approve of cheating?
I said it has to been proven to determine what the facts are..You on the other hand are simply going off accusations without any evidence of wrong doing…Just because you hope it’s true,doesn’t make it so….
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BlueCat32 / May 30, 2010
You can’t sell history and tradition,it stays the same…You can only change the future not the past…
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fearthephog25 / May 30, 2010
You and I both know the simple rules of improper benefits, so please do not try and be so NAIVE to what is really going on here. You know it is not good for uk, or catpause would not be going frantic and out of control. uk fans are starting to bash each other. “The sky is falling.”
The academic issue has far less impact than the improper benefits issue. If proven true, then uk played an ineligible player. You know what that means. End of story.
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blasphemy / May 30, 2010
I’m debating because I like debating. The hell do you think I’m on here so much lmao? You really think I’m taking this personally? My posts have value (in my mind and any other math major’s mind), you just refuse to fight it, completely go to other things, and ignore them. Until you actually, deeply debate me, with proof and with logical (explained better below), I won’t stop. Especially not after these comments, lol. “I’m going to go ahead and be the bigger man,” and who could forget the classic, “this coming from a “young child”” those are snide and are really not sincere. If you want a truce, you can do better than that, lolzerz. I’ll tell you this, I WANT to debate. I want somebody to try and debate me with: Facts, definitions, logic, and sources. I do debating math style (math in the upper division courses is NOTHING like even up to Cal 4, and demands logic) The only way this is going to work though is if you 1: don’t take things personal and 2: utilize open source facts and ASSUME this is a courtroom setting, word of mouth just won’t cut it save an expert witness agreed upon by both arbitrators. If you debate me (with said rules) in a fresh post, I’ll gladly apologize, even though I promise I wasn’t being personal, just ask Big Ben. We can set up and agree upon the arbitration rules if you wish in another post. I would LOVE to debate you, jhawk4, big ben, rbcat, bigpapi, and/or maybe bigbluecat (he/she is kinda new, still deciding on the level of competition) in the future. But nobody wants to have a real debate with me *crys*. I would love to know if you are up to the debate.
Also, I try to deprecate myself in several posts, I hope you understand this is my way of saying that I’m really not all that serious.
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BlueCat32 / May 30, 2010
The keyword is “IF”….
So,until it’s proven as I said in my earlier post,there’s nothing but,accusations….
As far as CP half of them over their are idiots and a good portion of them are rival fans stirring the pot…I’ll go out on a limb and say you would fit in perfectly over there….
The more rational fans like myself actually stay away from that board…There’s better places for discussion then there…
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fearthephog25 / May 30, 2010
bluecat32
Do you actually believe that the H.S. coach paid the rent in check or money order?
If,and I say If he did pay the monies…Do you think he will admit to that?(I think not)
Where does it say I approve of cheating?
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You are implying that since he did not pay rent in check or money order, then its okay. LOL Ever hear of a simple cash receipt? And you think he won’t admit it huh? Ever hear of a Federal Grand Jury? Come on guy, get real here. You just don’t wanna face the music of “I told you so” from the Whole Nation. Calipari is a walking violation.
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BlueCat32 / May 30, 2010
Where does it say that the F.G.J. will get involved?
Alabama High School Athletic Association as far as I read…And that’s if they find enough evidence to warrant an investigation.
U can say “I told U so” all you want,doesn’t bother me in the least…But,the fact is you can’t stay that until it has been proven…
Just keep hoping and wishing it might come true for you…But,in this case I doubt it ever will….
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fearthephog25 / May 30, 2010
Get some rest and enjoy your weekend. Your letting this get inside your head too much, its going to give you a clump of grey hairs. LOL That countdown to July 1st. NBA Free Agency is approaching quickly, and moves are going to be made.
Have some fun!! Its Memorial Day Weekend. Time for FUN, WOMEN AND BEERS!!!
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BlueCat32 / May 30, 2010
Comment by fearthephog25-
You are implying that since he did not pay rent in check or money order, then its okay. LOL Ever hear of a simple cash receipt?
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No,I’m implying that “IF” it did happen it would be hard to prove…
Cash receipt…What you saying the coach paid in cash then he signed a receipt…If that were to be the case ,don’t you think that the NYT would had gathered that as evidence…They didn’t because it doesn’t exist,pretty easy to understand…
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tsmooth / May 30, 2010
I’ll debate you, just not over Zagsblog.
I’ll gladly debate you over phone, email, or any other avenue you deem suitable.
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BlueCat32 / May 31, 2010
I’m done with this anyways,I made my points..PEACE
I rest my case,your honor….
F.G.J. 🙂
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fearthephog25 / May 31, 2010
There is always a paper trail…..somebody has to pay taxes on the payments made. Sounds to me like you are spending too much trying to convince yourself it is not true. LOL Whats next, you going to start blaming yourself? 😛
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BlueCat32 / May 31, 2010
What “IF” I was the one that paid the rent?
There’s no paper trail except possibly a green paper,it’s call cash….
Thought you went drinking and womanizing,that was a quick beer and lay…..U must of gotten excited and prematurely lost your shot….. Laughs
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fearthephog25 / May 31, 2010
YOU GUYS SOLD OUT! All for a quick fix. In the end, KARMA always wins.:)
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BlueCat32 / May 31, 2010
If Karma always wins,then I fill sorry for what’s coming your way!
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fearthephog25 / May 31, 2010
LOL Thought you were done here? “PEACE” 🙂 How many times did you sit there refreshing your page? Its still early here on the Westcoast, and you have nothing better to do than sit at your computer on the holiday weekend? What a loser! 😛 HAHA
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BlueCat32 / May 31, 2010
Name calling won’t get you anywhere,Yeah,I must be a loser talking to someone such as you…
Someone that don’t or can’t get the facts correct….
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BlueCat32 / May 31, 2010
Another thing you haven’t a clue where I’m at East,Midwest,West coast…When you assume,you know the old saying….
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fearthephog25 / May 31, 2010
Your funny, but it is true.
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blasphemy / May 31, 2010
I’m going to bed, we will try to figure a venue tomorrow.
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fearthephog25 / May 31, 2010
Yup, beautiful sunsets & Westcoast livin’ are in my immediate future. Sandy beaches, cold coronas and beach bunnies. 🙂 All while your sky is falling. LOL
Sleep well Sweet Pea……
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BlueCat32 / May 31, 2010
LOL…Or it could be smoggy sunsets.Oily beaches,hot Old Milwaukee’s and Fat old ladies 🙂 All while I’m counting the multiple Championships that UK is winning…
Go Big Blue!
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BlueCat32 / May 31, 2010
Will Bledsoe Investigation Send Cal to the NBA?
To answer your question AZ…….No,it will not
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BlueCat32 / May 31, 2010
Oh,I forgot to mention the wildfires and earthquakes,sleep well.
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fearthephog25 / May 31, 2010
LOL Now that we know your prayers bluecat32, you can wake up from your wet dream. Your not getting a whole lot of sleep these days are you? bledsoe – cal – NBA thoughts have you real worried….I know. You will be be pleased though, Travis Ford is a really good coach. However say goodbye to Jones and Knight. Think Payne will stay at uk too? 😛 I say he does, but he is not really a concern of anyone. Oregon wasn’t landing ant top level talent. He was just a Jones pawn.
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fearthephog25 / May 31, 2010
Try winning one this century to become relevant. LOL Or perhaps you can’t, being that you may be looking for a replacement coach real soon. Then its back to the basement you go., where do you guys hang those NIT Participant banners anyway? In the practice facilities?
Where is your uk2k* t-shirt? Wear it proudly….
I am going to sleep very well, no worries…
(While you continue to search threads on any uk info you can find)
Don’t beat yourself up to hard over the situation, nothing with cal and the NBA won’t start popping up til a week before July 1st. LeBron has the league on hold.
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fearthephog25 / May 31, 2010
To all uk fans…..this is a good thing. You better hope he leaves for the NBA and you will only have to endure this for one year. If not this will be a yearly thing, You will have the best freshman in the country and they will choke in the big game. Rose then Wall i see a pattern developing.
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fearthephog25 / May 31, 2010
Look at it on the bright side uk fans, you guys had so much fun celebrating 2000 wins – you’ll get to do it again!
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BlueCat32 / May 31, 2010
Like I said before keep telling yourself that,it won’t make it come true…
If you had 3 wishes,you would probably wish that Cal leaves so you weren’t so irrelevant like you are now.
You’re 2nd wish would be that that UK would have to vacate their wins.
You’re 3rd and final wish would be that when you peed that U wouldn’t have to use a pair of tweezers and a magnify glass to find it….
I’ll sleep fine when it’s time…Just finished watching a few movies,Edge of Darkness,The taking of Phelam 123 and Shutter Island all were pretty good…
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tsmooth / May 31, 2010
Not unsure of my words. Based on what happened with the Derrick Rose case, I firmly believe that the NCAA will rule Bledsoe ineligible.
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tsmooth / May 31, 2010
awesome
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fearthephog25 / May 31, 2010
Thank you Siskel and Ebbert!!! LOL 😛
uk2k* – Win at all costs.
uk – Where vacated seasons happen.
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BlueCat32 / May 31, 2010
What’s going on with the KU A.D.?
Details of alleged blackmail surface
http://cjonline.com/sports/basketball/2010-05-30/details_of_alleged_blackmail_surface
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blasphemy / May 31, 2010
Been working on French all day. Sorry, so where would you like to debate at? why not an empty thread here?
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fearthephog25 / May 31, 2010
Try harder!! ROFL
We are not losing our coach or any wins.
Good attempt though. haha 😛
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BlueCat32 / May 31, 2010
K-A-R-M-A
I like said you keep telling yourself that,will not make it happen…
You see your hate for Cal/UK just may come back in your direction..
Dent agreed to wait until April 19. Instead, on April 15, he e-mailed McAllister his plan to divulge damaging information regarding the high school eligibility of three current and former Kansas basketball players. He also said there would be information about unethical practices in the Kansas Athletics substance abuse program and about the physical therapy equipment.
Allegations are what they are,same as UK…Until something is proven…
Comment by fearthephog25-
We are not losing our coach or any wins.
Unless more info comes out to prove otherwise,regarding Dents comments above…
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BlueCat32 / May 31, 2010
Nor will we…
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fearthephog25 / May 31, 2010
LMAO!! You do realize you are quoting a convicted criminal right? 😛 Try doing a little in depth research, nice try though. Nice to see you received your source on catpause too, I thought you said that site was for losers? LMAO!! You are comical guy.
Like I said, you will be happy with Travis Ford as your new coach. He is a very good coach. At least when he gets you guys to the 2,000 win mark, we know it will be legit.
uk2k* 😛
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fearthephog25 / May 31, 2010
Travis Ford is already being mentioned as a possible replacement. He is good!!
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BlueCat32 / May 31, 2010
I didn’t get that from CP,I haven’t been to that site in weeks.What are you talking about?
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BlueCat32 / May 31, 2010
Show link to provide credibility….I’ll be waiting…
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fearthephog25 / May 31, 2010
LOL Sure Sure, I just read that same post there this morning. FAIL!! Try Again. 😛
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fearthephog25 / May 31, 2010
Yay! For Travis Ford!!
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BlueCat32 / May 31, 2010
Comment by fearthephog25-
You do realize you are quoting a convicted criminal right?
The better question is why is the AD dealing with a convicted criminal…
And the AD didn’t do anything until Dents comments….One crook working with another…Plain as day!
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BlueCat32 / May 31, 2010
No link all BS…just as I knew it was….U are to easy…
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BlueCat32 / May 31, 2010
EPIC FAIL on your part…
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fearthephog25 / May 31, 2010
You failed to mention blackmail is a felony in Kansas and Dent is charged.
Keep Digging though….
Nice way to spend your holiday weekend huh? LOL Must of been a real long and unpleasnt weekend for you. I know it was. 😛
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fearthephog25 / May 31, 2010
Bye bye cal!!
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BlueCat32 / May 31, 2010
That’s your problem….U think too much and don’t have a clue….
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BlueCat32 / May 31, 2010
You’re boring me with the same old dumb comments…I’m done with you….U can’t provide any source for you opinions..And that’s all they are is opinions,nothing more nothing less…
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BlueCat32 / May 31, 2010
Still didn’t answer my question,why was the AD dealing with Dent?
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fearthephog25 / May 31, 2010
I am too busy to go back and search for it, its there on catpause though. All back when cals name started to pop up for NBA vacancies. If I come across it thoough, I will post it. Its just that it is a holiday and I have better things to do than worry about basketball or find information. Do you have family or a woman? LOL
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fearthephog25 / May 31, 2010
Sleep well SWEET PEA!! 😛 Its time for the bbq. Be back later, while you frantically try and dig up more information. Happy hunting. LOL
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BlueCat32 / May 31, 2010
CP isn’t a source with ant credibility…That’s all you got a message board as a source for credibility….Haha
FAIL!
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fearthephog25 / May 31, 2010
OH!! uk2k* :)SON!! LOL
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fearthephog25 / May 31, 2010
No a cat fan posted the link, I just don’t have time to go look for it now.
uk2k*
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BlueCat32 / May 31, 2010
I told you already I’m done talking to someone that can’t back their comments with any reliable credibility….All you have is opinions nothing more….
Enjoy the bbq and that your AD is a crook…..Haha
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fearthephog25 / May 31, 2010
uk2k* SON!! YEAH BOI !!! 😛
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BlueCat32 / May 31, 2010
Whatever……U can come back later and comment all you want…I’m done with this topic,until more info. is available…
I said what I needed to say and all you can say is-
Travis Ford
Cal to NBA
Vacated Season
Loss of recruits
Blah..Blah..Blah…
None of the above is going to happen just because You say it will…No matter how hard you pray,wish,hope that it will…
So.now this is my last post on the subject….U can come back and have the last word,I know that’s what’s important to you..
Go Cats!
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BlueCat32 / May 31, 2010
Whatever……U can come back later and comment all you want…I’m done with this topic,until more info. is available…
I said what I needed to say and all you can say is-
Travis Ford
Cal to NBA
Vacated Season
Loss of recruits
Blah..Blah..Blah…
None of the above is going to happen just because You say it will…No matter how hard you pray,wish,hope that it will…
So.now this is my last post on the subject….U can come back and have the last word,I know that’s what’s important to you..
Go Cats!
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fearthephog25 / May 31, 2010
Thank You! 🙂
EACH ONE, TEACH ONE!!
uk2k* Better recognize!
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fearthephog25 / May 31, 2010
EACH ONE, TEACH ONE!!!
uk2k* Win at all costs. Even if it means losing all history and tradition.
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blasphemy / May 31, 2010
HARDER!!!!
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fearthephog25 / May 31, 2010
Exactly!!:)
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blasphemy / May 31, 2010
HARDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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fearthephog25 / May 31, 2010
Finally showing your face after tsmooth shut you down? LOL Very brave of you. Just when a person thought they have seen it all. 😛 We get to witness a clinical psychologist turn flashlight cop (mall cop, rent-a-cop). ROFL!!!
Anyone smell bacon? haha
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blasphemy / May 31, 2010
Omg, WOW, whewwww…. It was good for me, was it good for you? You just can’t stop can you, YOU STUD YOU!
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blasphemy / May 31, 2010
I’ve been SQUEALING like a pig since I’ve been with you http://ftp…... I love you, you’re such a STUD.
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socrates / June 1, 2010
Blas,
Quick question. You told me the other day that Bledsoe scored a 15 on his ACT, and as you put it, was a “subpar score”.
Question: What do athletes in the SEC have to make on their ACT to qualify for academic eligibility?
Just a question. Not starting a debate. Only a question. Are there mitigating circumstances under which an athlete can be granted eligibility with a subpar score, or was Bledsoe given some type of “special” grant or waiver.
I always thought that people had to score an 18 or higher to be eligible for the SEC.
Please elaborate.
I appreciate your knowledge on the subject!
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finalfours / June 1, 2010
This says it all:
But I think even Tru would admit that none of that has any relation to the question that has to be asked here: Did Calipari know that Bledsoe was allegedly ineligible. And if he didn’t know that Bledsoe was ineligible, or that Derrick Rose was ineligible, or that Marcus Camby was ineligible — is he stupid, incompetent or simply the unluckiest person in the history of human civilization? Because the only other plausible answers are either that he knew and didn’t care or knew and was a part of it.
http://www.teamspeedkills.com/2010/5/31/1494531/sprints-is-tired-of-john-calipari
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finalfours / June 1, 2010
Here is the whole paragraph so you can uderstand the context:
I think John Clay sums it up best (though probably in too many one-sentence paragraphs).
But there is more than enough information in the story to make you believe that alarms should have been going off somewhere over on the Avenue of Champions.
If you wanted to listen. …
But as one perceptive observer put it Friday night, Cal’s problem is that he doesn’t consider any kid off-limits. …
There wasn’t one red flag. There were a collection of red flags.
And how many times can Calipari say, “I didn’t know”?
Tru argued that “there is another” common denominator beyond Calipari, and he makes some good arguments about the socio-economic factors playing into all of Calipari’s ineligible players (one each at UMass, Memphis and Kentucky, which is some sort of trifecta, I suppose).
But I think even Tru would admit that none of that has any relation to the question that has to be asked here: Did Calipari know that Bledsoe was allegedly ineligible. And if he didn’t know that Bledsoe was ineligible, or that Derrick Rose was ineligible, or that Marcus Camby was ineligible — is he stupid, incompetent or simply the unluckiest person in the history of human civilization? Because the only other plausible answers are either that he knew and didn’t care or knew and was a part of it.
My skepticism of Calipari’s excuses is not part of any vendetta or hatred for Kentucky. Anyone who’s followed my writing over the years knows that I’m highly critical of Lou Holtz’s time in Columbia, and for much the same reasons. After Holtz left Arkansas? The NCAA found problems. After he retired from Notre Dame? The NCAA had issues. After he retired from South Carolina? The NCAA found violations. A pattern — and one that Holtz attempted to dodge time after time. (In the most outrageous example, he actually tried to argue that players would have died if he hadn’t broken the rules. Really.)
The fact is that it’s personal on this level: I’m tired of coaches who think they can spend their lives breaking the rules, or trying to stay just on this side of breaking the rules, while pretending that they run an ethical, above-board program. I’m not naive to the fact that almost all programs run into gray areas from time to time, or that life maybe isn’t always as simple as Occam’s Razor.
But patterns are not accidents. And a coach that runs into trouble at three different programs is a pattern, no matter what justifications that coach or his supporters might construct. And for coaches to encourage fans to think otherwise is to cynically rally them behind the good name of their schools while continuing to do whatever that coach wants to in order to enrich himself and enhance his reputation.
And ultimately, it leads to the question that should most trouble fans of schools with coaches who repeatedly run into rules problems and repeatedly shrug them off or present a smokescreen of excuses: How stupid do these guys think we are?
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finalfours / June 1, 2010
And Blas….
My advice to you still stands .
Wise up
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socrates / June 1, 2010
Confucious say:
“Ignorance is bliss.”
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tsmooth / June 1, 2010
I would debate on Zags, but it’d take up a lot of space, especially if someone wants to read comments pertaining to the article.
I can do FB, email, texting, skype, twitter, etc.
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fearthephog25 / June 1, 2010
Check mate! 😛
Oh, taking a smoke break from your flash light cop gig?
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blasphemy / June 1, 2010
yup, wise up.
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blasphemy / June 1, 2010
NCAA sliding eligibility scale, check into it. I don’t know all the details, or hardly any for that matter. SEC has little to do with the say with what it takes to get into said conference school, almost completely to do between the NCAA and said school/uni. Be honest, when have you ever heard a conference keeping a kid from playing. I’ve never heard it down here in SEC land.
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blasphemy / June 1, 2010
Oh, baby, keep it coming, you make me feel like that guy in deliverance…… oh baby, keep going.
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blasphemy / June 1, 2010
Oh, and the only reason I know of the sliding eligibility scale is because of the NYT article.
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blasphemy / June 1, 2010
In later news, John Clay goes on to retract his previous statements (in a stubborn way) about the previous article he wrote.
10. So weren’t you a little hard on Calipari in Sunday’s paper? ********Maybe, maybe not. (My e-mailers agree I was too hard.)********** Either way, Friday’s story confirms that given Calipari’s reputation, fairly or unfairly, people are going to ask questions about his recruits.
http://www.kentucky.com/2010/05/31/1286587/clay-questions-and-answers-about.html
My eyes appear far more open than yours.
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fearthephog25 / June 1, 2010
Only you would know about the ways of the backwoods. LMAO!! Any wrong turn movie references? Everyone in kensucky is a movie buff, like they have nothing better to do.
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fearthephog25 / June 1, 2010
Kentuckians think the University of Kentucky is a building where basketball is played.
Schedule:
Seasonal — October thru March
Games are played 2 to 3 days/ week
Doors open 1 hour before game and close 1 hour after game
Ticket prices determined by coach
Note: The 1st hour before game starts is spent ‘blowing smoke’ up one another’s hillbilly asses. Then the game — where they ‘hoot and holler’. Immediately following the game, some pack the pick-up and head down yonder. Others take advantage of the hour following the game: For decades, many have taken to wandering around campus … unsure of the reason for having so many buildings, when only one building is being used.
Even though the basketball games highlight the State’s existence, most Kentuckians consider the other buildings and land to be a waste of taxpayers money.
Then the season ends (doors now closed).
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fearthephog25 / June 1, 2010
kentuckians, here’s the ‘message in the bottle’ …
Your compassion for uk’s basketball program is noted, despite its corruption. Having said that, uk fans should note this:
Your redundant reply of being hated, is absurd. You mistake condemnation for a corrupt basketball program with yourselves. You mustn’t be so egotistical — the manner in which calipari “coaches” and the university’s decision to hire him is the context of discussions … not you.
You see, beyond the borders of kentucky, college basketball programs are measured not only by the team’s success on the court, it is also measured by what happens off the court. uk has an illustrious history of NCAA infractions — throw in john calipari, and the history of corruption at uk extends to the present. Yet, you take umbrage?
It is not about hating cyberspace sports fans, it is about rejecting immorality, misconduct, corruption, violations … indecency.
Yes, fans who care about the integrity of the sport, would like to see an end to the ongoing misdeeds of TJ and the complicity of the university of kentucky.
It is not about you — unless you’re a school official or involved in the coaching staff, which I doubt.
(Hating? The recent history of uk’s basketball program has nothing to envy. Any titles this millenia?)
sleep well…..
uk2k*
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blasphemy / June 1, 2010
Wow, I love how you sweet talk me right after “it” happens. So, do you want to play defense or offense tonight?
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blasphemy / June 1, 2010
We could go to an article devoid of comments on the second page. That’s what I was thinking anyways. Hardly anybody goes back to comment.
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crautdawg / June 1, 2010
Adam Z.,
This got to be a record for the most ridiculous number of comments on one blog!
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tsmooth / June 1, 2010
True that.
That is doable.
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