When Jio Fontan wanted to leave Fordham last December, he was given a conditional release and prohibited from landing at a number of schools.
It was perfectly understandable for Fontan to be prevented from transferring within the Atlantic 10 Conference, but he was also restricted from joining nearly half a dozen Big East schools, including Rutgers.
Fontan, a 6-foot point guard who played for Bob Hurley at St. Anthony, once sat courtside at Rutgers but never had any serious intention of coming to the school. He ultimately landed at Southern Cal.
Four months later, Mike Rosario, Fontan’s close friend and former St. Anthony teammate, is going through a similar experience as Rutgers attempts to buy out head coach Fred Hill.
Only this time, Rutgers is the school telling a star player where he can and cannot go.
According to Gannett New Jersey, Rutgers will file tampering charges against USC in the Rosario transfer case. The school will also seek to prevent Rosario, who has yet to obtain a release, from going to Kansas and Florida.
“This is like Fordham all over again,” said a source close to both Fontan and Rosario. “It’s like the same [stuff] I see all over again.”
That same stuff is a University telling a young man what he can and can’t do with his life and his basketball talents.
Fordham came off looking absurd in the Fontan case, and Rutgers is treading in the same dangerous waters.
“To have them sit out a year [after transferring], that’s pathetic. Regulating where you can go makes it more pathetic,” Sonny Vaccaro, the former grassroots sneaker czar who has become a full-time critic of the NCAA and its practices, said when speaking generally about transfers.
“I just don’t know where schools can feel a clean conscience over this. It’s one of [the NCAA’s] many rules that are wrong but this is right at the top of the list.”
Big East rules prevent Rosario from transferring within the league, but why shouldn’t he be allowed to go anywhere else that he wants? Why shouldn’t he be allowed to play at USC, Kansas or Florida, or anywhere else outside of the Big East for that matter?
And what’s more, if you’re Rutgers, don’t you benefit from telling the young man, “We hope you stay here and give the new coach a chance. But if you don’t want that, we support you because you’ve done so much for our program.”
Instead, Rutgers, like Fordham before it, is telling a player exactly what he can’t do, which may only engender more bad feelings on Rosario’s end.
“He can’t play for a year,” Vaccaro said, again speaking generally about transfers. “Your guy [the head coach] is gone now and your guy is free to do whatever he wants to do. Your school is free to do whatever they want to do and this kid isn’t free to do anything?
“And then one of these days the public and the media is going to force change. This one should be one of the first to go.”
According to the source close to Rosario and Fontan, Southern Cal has done nothing improper vis-a-vis Rosario, who led the team in scoring the last two seasons.
“They can look all they want,” the source said. “Nobody did anything illegal. The proof is in the pudding. As far as the school reaching out or anything like that, I know for a fact that that hasn’t been done.”
The source added: “What are they gonna do, pick every school that Mike’s interested in?”
Rosario came to Rutgers amid high hopes.
He was the prized recruit out of Hurley’s undefeated 2008 St. Anthony team that won the Tournament of Champions and was chronicled in the excellent documentary, “The Street Stops Here.”
Greg Echenique, out of St. Benedict’s Prep, was the other top recruit in that class that was supposed to put Hill — and Rutgers — into the upper echelon of the Big East.
Instead, Hill went 47-77 over four seasons and managed to have 11 players transfer on his watch.
Echenique has already left Rutgers for Creighton amid family concerns that his detached retina wasn’t handled or treated properly by the coaching and medical staff.
Now the school appears intent upon giving Rosario a hard time as he tries to move forward with his life and career in hopes of making the NBA.
Fontan has been there before and knows how that feels.
He learned that certain supposed “mentors and coaches” who should have been there to guide him and give him good advice turned out to have their own interests at stake.
“When things came hard for me, and I relied on them for certain things, a lot of people turned their back on me,” Fontan said in a phone interview.
Four months after Fordham told Fontan what he could and couldn’t do, Rutgers is making the same dangerous mistake with Rosario.
Like the man said, “This is like Fordham all over again.”
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rurahrah / April 10, 2010
Am I missing something? Isn’t tampering a strict no-no under NCAA rules? Where it can be proven, the offending institutions need to face sanctions to keep this cancerous practice from spreading throughout the game. And it should work both ways–not just the programs doing the enticing, but also to any making false charges. Similarly, any player caught ‘playing this game’ and not immediately reporting it also deserves to be penalized. There has to be some conscience in college sports, otherwise terms like ‘student-athletes’ and ‘institutions of higher learning’ mean nothing. Yes, I’m Rutgers ’56 and hunger for national rankings in both basketball and football, but by the rules, with honor and integrity.
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Blank / April 10, 2010
This sounds like one-sided commentary.
Sonny Vaccaro? “Someone close to Jio & Rosario.”
Also: Did Fordham actually file charges against Rutgers? Is Rutgers blocking Rosario’s eventual release to all programs?
If there was tampering, then TP has to do something about it. You can’t let other schools undermine your season by having their go-betweens whispering in the ears of star players that they should transfer out.
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YawnYawn / April 10, 2010
I hope you took a shower with anti-bacterial soap after relying on Sonny for an unbiased commentary of the situation. Next time why don’t you just chat up Calipari for some comments on ethics in recruiting and the handling of student-athletes.
Yeah, Sonny would live it if the power programs could just cannibalize the less-fortunate without fear of penalties. Why stop recruiting a kid just because he’s already playing for another school? Yeah, that will work.
And, gosh golly gee whiz, I’m sure those sources close to Jio and Rosario are unbiased in their analysis of the situation.
You lost a lot of credibility with this article.
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rexhead / April 10, 2010
Adam – this is easily the worst article you’ve written since i started reading your blog a few years ago. this article is devoid of objectivity, misleading and a total hatchet job. You’re better than this.
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RockChalkWoody / April 10, 2010
“According to Gannett New Jersey, Rutgers will file tampering charges against USC in the Rosario transfer case. The school will also seek to prevent Rosario, who has yet to obtain a release, from going to Kansas and Florida.”
Excuse me? Where does the Rutgers athletic department get off trying to tell a kid that wants to leave where he can and can’t go? Let me guess, they’re not happy about Rosario looking to possibly join his former high school teammate Tyshawn Taylor? Well, tough $hit. I’m not even sure KU has room for him, but I do know that Rutgers is making a big mistake & future recruits will remember how petty the school looks.
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rurahrah / April 10, 2010
So long as NCAA institutions don’t surrender to those who view Division 1 basketball solely as an NBA developmental league, there have to be rules and regulations to keep the parasites leashed. Even though a kid signs a binding letter of intent when he accepts his scholarship, there are legit ways to arrange a transfer or release; buying a better deal ‘initiated’ by another school or ‘brokered’ by a party of interest is not one of them–and when any athletic director makes such a charge it’s not to be taken lightly. So far, I’ve not seen such a charge leveled by the Rutgers AD, only smoke being blown from unknown sources. If and when such an official charge is made, you can be fairly certain the ‘hard evidence’ is there to substantiate such a charge. If not, that AD should be penalized for making false charges.
What’s going on a Rutgers is merely the tip of the iceberg, the whole Division 1 ‘recruiting system’ stinks and I’d love to see a reduction in the number of scholarships so at least half of all roster slots are filled by bona fide student-athletes, not athletes pretending to be students. We’ve seen enough of the ‘one and done’ types. I can dream, can’t I?
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rclegacy / April 10, 2010
Adam, you must not have been aware that RU is reported to be filing tampering charges re: the Rosario transfer. If you did miss that report, you really should write a retraction on this story. If you did know about the tampering allegations and went ahead with your story anyway, you have lost a lot of credibility.
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UofA BJ / April 11, 2010
well said.
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UofA BJ / April 11, 2010
crazy that they’re trying to keep him from KU and UF.(although I dont see kansas adding him, especially if selby or lamb go there.)
Note to rutgers: he’s gone get over it.
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UofA BJ / April 11, 2010
Dont let the haters get you down AZ, great blog
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YawnYawn / April 11, 2010
How can you respect an alleged journalist that would go to an absolute slimeball like Sonny Vaccaro — a guy who’s corrupt enough to be a US Senator or the Governor of New York — as a source for anything? I wouldn’t trust Sonny Vaccaro enough to ask him what month it is, never mind the day of the week.
AZ — you’re known by the company you keep. If Sonny’s on your speeddial, get rid of him and be legit, will ya?
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Adam Zagoria / April 11, 2010
Folks,
I’ve read all the comments and thanks for the feedback.
This was written as a column expressing my opinion on the topic and apparently it touched some nerves.
It really comes down to whether or not you believe the NCAA and colleges should be able to restrict the movement of student-athletes. If you don’t, then you probably support this column.
If, however, you believe colleges and the NCAA should be able to tell young men like Jio Fontan and Mike Rosario where they can — and cannot go — then you’re certainly entitled to that opinion. I just hope your son or daughter doesn’t wind up hoping to transfer.
As for the shots at Sonny as a person and a source, again, you are free to voice your opinion. So is Sonny, and I credit him for taking a strong position on many issues regarding the freedom of college athletes.
Sonny is quoted everywhere from The New York Times to ESPN the Magazine, so any argument that he is somehow not a “legitimate” source is beyond absurd.
Thanks,
Adam
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jXwall11 / April 11, 2010
This is pathetic of Rutgers, absolute ignorance on their part! If the kid wants to transfer, and the rule in place is he cant go to a big east school then he should be allowed to transfer where he pleases not where Rutgers tells him to go or not go. Absolutely classless on behalf of the university, they cant say thank you and we wish you well instead they choose to make a kids future that much harder. Now we can see why Rutgers is the laughing stock of the Big East and nationally as well!
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Sportfan01234 / April 11, 2010
The part that everybody is missing about this is that Coach Hurley is very protective of his current and former players and here’s betting a million bucks that he for sure won’t forget what rutgers is doing do the kid….For all those Rutgers fans out there I think Coach Hurley is the last enemy you want if your trying to build a national contending program he holds alot of sway in the metro area on both the high school and AAU scene and don’t think for a minute that coaches around the area won;t take notice…if they’ll treat a Hurley St. Anthony kid like this how are they gonna treat the others….also note Dan Hurley just got the wagner job and both St.johns and Seton hall have made good hires recently…this is the worse possible time for Rutgers to make a move like this…Just let the Kid go where he wants and move on cause the more messy this gets the worst off for Rutgers not the Kid Rosario ultimately going forward.
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YawnYawn / April 11, 2010
I apologize for mistaking the blog (which I found through SNY which I presume is a reliable news source) for journalism instead of an opinion column. If you’re going to quote Vaccaro, didn’t you feel any obligation to find anyone with a contrasting view? Guess not if it’s just your personal opinion about the situation.
You presented one side, from a very polarizing source, who would turn college sports into a professional minor league for the NBA and create a “super league” so that the Nike and Adidas mega-powers wouldn’t have to worry about playing Butler, Murray State or Cornell. I guess Worldwide Wes wasn’t available …
Oh, by the way — I thought that Fordham was wrong, and now Rutgers is wrong to interfere when a kid wants to transfer. But I feel that sitting out for one year is important to prevent poaching and it’s a fair price for a kid to pay for a free college education, if he plans to take advantage of it.
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rclegacy / April 11, 2010
You’re missing the point Adam with all due respect. My son or daughter, or your son or daughter, or any son or daughter can transfer colleges anywhere within the rules while conducting himself or herself with integrity. And it’s hard to believe Adam that you take comfort in USC’s non-denial denials; if any school has mastered the back channels for recruiting violations while avoiding direct player-coach contacts, it’s USC.
Quite frankly Rosario can transfer anywhere for all many RU fans care. Who cares if you score 16 points when you’re gunning the ball for almost 20 shots/game to make 6 or 7 FG’s at best? Rosario was a net negative most games unfortunately with his terrible shot selection contributing to his pathetic 37% FG production, being a turnover-prone and mediocre at-best on defense. He either is not as good as hyped, or he quit on the team and played for himself while plotting his transfer. No fault for the former, but it is unacceptable IF Rosario and/or his handlers were working the system through other schools’ go-between connections while he was supposed to be contributing to the good of his current team.
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Adam Zagoria / April 11, 2010
rclegacy:
Conducting himself with integrity?
Tell me why Jio Fontan should’ve been restricted from transferring to UConn, Rutgers, Seton Hall or St. John’s — which he was.
Why shouldn’t he have been allowed to go to one of those schools?
And please tell me why Mike Rosario should be restricted from transferring to Kansas or Florida, if he chooses?
As for USC, until there is a shred of evidence that USC tampered, why should he be prevented from going there?
Thanks
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Blank / April 11, 2010
I’m pretty sure Rutgers wouldn’t be filing the tampering charges if they didn’t feel they had proof.
As for the commenters saying Rutgers should let Rosario go where he wants to even if there was tampering.
I hope you’re fine with other schools whispering in your players during your seasons as well.
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UofA BJ / April 12, 2010
Couldnt agree more, these schools are not going to be seeing rutgers anytime soon, and they are obviously bitter if they would try to prevent him from going to KU or UF.
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UofA BJ / April 12, 2010
KU and Florida arent going to be whispering in his ear with the type’s of players they recruit. Rosario and his 37% fgp would be lucky to get a offer from KU. The USC tampering charges are no suprise but it all boils down to proof and I dont see rutgers having any hard evidence.
In my opinion rutgers AD should wake up and see that rutgers is the reason Rosario is leaving.
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RockChalkWoody / April 12, 2010
BJ, +1. I don’t understand why Rutgers cares if he went to KU? Is it just because his former high school teammate Tyshawn Taylor plays for the Jayhawks?
Rutgers might as well throw in the towel when it comes to recruiting…this is a huge black eye for their program.
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Blank / April 12, 2010
So UofA – what you are saying is that Rutgers is doing this for vindictive reasons, and they don’t have any proof, because you just “know” that they have no proof.
That they would waste the NCAA’s time, and potentially risk blowback from the NCAA itself by bringing up a frivolous allegation?
Ok…
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sino428 / April 12, 2010
I personally think there should be some restrictions or consequences on tranfers. Lets face it, college hoops has become nothing more that a business. I see these letters of intent as what they are and that is a contract where the player plays basketball in exchange for a free education. I dont see why in all other aspects of real life, contracts are enforcable and have penalities for breaches, yet these basketball players think they should just be able to walk away free and clear just because they are unhappy.
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Sportfan01234 / April 12, 2010
in response to that….the coaches seem to do that so if you don’t hold the coaches who are suppose to be the mentors of these players to that standard then why hold the players to that standard…I mean where is the consistency that is the main criticism of the NCAA as a whole is that when it comes to holding the coaches as accountable as their players instead they can just move from job to job but when a player wants to do the same thing they are not allowed to by those same coaches and athletic departments that create the unstable climate.
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UofA BJ / April 12, 2010
what im sayng is I bet they have no hard evidence like rosario talking to a coach. Its all he said she said, which wont lead to anything.
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RockChalkWoody / April 12, 2010
sino428, I have two problems with what you’re saying: 1). Coaches do it all of the time so why should players be held to a higher standard, and 2). A scholarship isn’t a 4 year contract. It basically works like 4 one year contracts so theoretically kids can be released and/or told that their scholarship has been pulled (i.e., coaches like Self & Cal over-recruit so that’s always a possibility).
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Big Ben / April 12, 2010
This has more to do with Hurley v Rutgers than anyone else. Hurley thinks there are a few spots were Rosario would develop well and likely mentioned that to his friends. Is it tampering? Maybe, but I’d rather have Hurley out there looking out for my kid rather than some street agent like a lot of these kids have surrounding them.
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rclegacy / April 12, 2010
Adam,
Why are you asking me about Jio Fontan’s transfer restrictions from Fordham? The crux of the criticism of your “Looking Like Fordham All Over Again” story is that the Fontan and Rosario situations are mutually exclusive, not apples to apples, but surely you understand that. Not a shred of USC tampering evidence? You can’t be serious in thinking that RU would go public with potentially filing tampering charges if there was not even a “shred of evidence”. Possible issues with KU and Tyshawn Taylor certainly can be speculated a la USC and Fontan. As for FLA who knows what could be suspicious there? I expect that will be aired-out. But any other non-Big East school is not a transfer problem, so that leaves some big country between the ACC, Big10, SEC, A-10 etc. open to him that are a lot closer than Southern Cal, Kansas or Florida.
I’m not clear on your sentence question about integrity? If a player decides he or she wants to leave a program he or she can’t quit on the team mid-season and plot a transfer thereby undermining teammates and the school that are counting on that player. If you watched Rosario play this season you have to either question his commitment to the team or conclude that he was overrated due to being on a star-studded St. Ant’s team that flat-out overmatched its competition. There’s a big difference when a high school opponent has to worry about top recruits for KU, ‘Nova and other D-1 teams compared Syracuse, UConn, WVU and the like training their sights on player that’s turnover-prone and has not proven to be capable of driving the lane effectively.
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rclegacy / April 13, 2010
Quick clean-up of a couple typos:
There’s a big difference when a high school opponent has to worry defensively about top recruits for KU, ‘Nova and other D-1 teams compared to Syracuse, UConn, WVU and the like training their sights on a player that’s turnover-prone and has not proven to be capable of driving the lane effectively.
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Adam Zagoria / April 13, 2010
rclegacy:
I wish I knew what your argument was. Are you saying that Mike “quit” on his team and therefore should be restricted in where he goes to school next?
Rutgers didn’t “go public” with any tampering charges. Jerry and Keith quoted a source saying the school would file tampering charges down the road. So far, no one has demonstrated any evidence that there was tampering. If Mike and Jio talk about playing together (they lived together for years in Paterson) or if Mike and Ty talked about playing together, that DOES NOT constitute tampering according to the NCAA. Do you think it does?
If officials from USC or another school somehow reached out to Mike, that would constitute tampering.
So far, no one has presented evidence of that. If Gannett had the evidence, they would have written it, believe me. Rutgers never “went public” with anything. In fact, the school hasn’t granted the kid his release yet.
As for “quitting” on his team, that is pure speculation on your part and not consistent with the Mike Rosario who I know to be a tremendous fighter and competitor. If the whole team quit on Fred down the stretch, that is another thing.
My original point was that Fordham had no business telling Jio he couldn’t go to local Big East schools and that Rutgers, likewise, has no business telling Mike he can’t go to non-Big East schools.
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sino428 / April 13, 2010
I agree its a bit unfair, but its hard to compare coaches to players. At the end of the day these kids are supposed tol be there, at a school because they like the school, and are there to get an education.
Coaches are after jobs. If a coach can go make 3x or 4x more money by moving up to a bigger or better school, its hard to deny that movement, or oppurtunity.
A simple solution would be to allow players to transfer freely if they are at a school where the coach leaves, since we all know the coach is one of the biggest influences on players. If not, they should have to either stay, or sit out the year and face whatever restrictions on the tranfer they get.
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rclegacy / April 13, 2010
Come on Adam, the argument is really simple: both your story’s headline and your story’s premise itself are dangerously misleading. RU’s present transfer restrictions on Rosario are not like Fordham all over again, and the overwhelming majority of your posters agree with that. Why wouldn’t a school have a right to restrict certain schools for transfer if those schools were thought to be tampering?
RU can have plenty of valid reasons for restricting Rosario’s transfer to those three (3!!!) schools if there is evidence, or the school reasonably believes that there is evidence upon further investigation, to support charges of tampering. If Rosario and Fontan talked about playing together at USC, and Fontan talks to the USC staff about it, and then continues as a go-between, would not that qualify as tampering? Or maybe Fontan talks to Rosario’s family who talks to Rosario and around and around we go. Why do you gloss over possible secondary and tertiary tampering contacts? Why has USC only denied DIRECT communication between its staff and Rosario? Yes the second question is rhetorical because the answer is obvious. USC has been at the forefront of exploiting the back channel recruiting game for decades.
The report about RU planning to file the tampering charges is in fact public, you’re attempts to cleverly nuance your wording is disingenuous. Carino wrote on his Hoops Haven public blog that he privately heard some of RU’s evidence, and that IF true, it is truly explosive. You know that lawyers are involved, and all or some may or may not have a connection to the Hill firing imbroglio, so the dirty details may not be public at this point because of legal barriers. RU’s general tampering allegations against USC owever are very, very public Adam.
Next, do you know why RU has not granted Rosario’s release yet, could it be because Rosario won’t agree to the 3 school transfer restrictions?
Finally, my only speculation about Rosario quitting on the team, to its detriment, is via game-by-game observation. How many RU games have you actually watched this season? Rosario the fighter you think you know from his high flying St Ant’s high school days would not be consistent with his erratic play, swinging from tentative and timid to careless and out-of-control, on the court against Big East competition. I specifically said either he’s not as good as hyped, or he may have quit. His weak production stats are very telling, but his body language on the court last season may have spoken even louder. At least we agree on my “speculating he quit”, could be he’s just not as good as we all thought he was coming out of high school.
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UofA BJ / April 13, 2010
RCLegacy give it up you are wrong and the title of the story is not misleading in any way.
Are you the rutgers AD by chance?
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rurahrah / April 14, 2010
The Star-Ledger and Gannett sites are reporting that Mike Rosario has been granted a conditional release, but not a hint what the conditions are. Perhaps we’ll be enlightened here. If you’ll recall what he was quoted as saying on why he chose Rutgers two years ago, he wanted to be close to home so his family and friends could see him play in person. Does this time he’ll pick St. Peter’s, FDU, Wagner or a NYC school? I think not !!! Were the reports of others tampering at all true? Whoever gets him better have a good PR man.
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rclegacy / April 14, 2010
uofa-bj:
No I’m not Tim Pernetti, I’m sure he has an Admin Asst that wouldn’t be as typo-prone as I am.
Are you Worldwide Wes by any chance?
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rurahrah / April 15, 2010
I wonder if there’s room in Hill Jr.’s present contract to reassign him to non-athletic administrative duties somewhere else within the University system. Such a prospect might induce him to take the 600G and move on or at least give RU a return on the money.
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